Electric fan control
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Electric fan control
Hi is there a way of checking to see if my ms2 has the relevant settings and wiring for switching a electric fan on through a relay?
The output port setting are as follows
enabled tick
Power on value 0
trigger value 1
coolant greater than 85 threshold, hysteresis 10.0
no additional condition set
Any help would be appreciated.
Only I don't see why i should have to use another controller if the ecu has the capabilities for doing so.
The output port setting are as follows
enabled tick
Power on value 0
trigger value 1
coolant greater than 85 threshold, hysteresis 10.0
no additional condition set
Any help would be appreciated.
Only I don't see why i should have to use another controller if the ecu has the capabilities for doing so.
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Re: Electric fan control
The settings seem reasonable, but what port are those settings for?
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Re: Electric fan control
The MS is most certainly capable of controlling the cooling fan relay field if you built the circuit to do so and the settings you put in your post look fine but you just need to decide which port you have available and wire it accordingly . Did you build the MS and what board are you using ?
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1995 Nissan 240sx, 403 LS strokerv8 N/A 6speed trans
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sequential fuel and sequential spark
LS3/LSA card MAF sensor
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Re: Electric fan control
Hi,
No I didn't build the board.
It was built for me. Its a ms2 extra with version 3?
No I didn't build the board.
It was built for me. Its a ms2 extra with version 3?
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Re: Electric fan control
Was the board build with hardware to control a fan relay? If you're not sure, you will have to open the enclosure.
Re: Electric fan control
OK, that's not a problem . Would a photo of the board be of help ?
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Re: Electric fan control
Yes, a couple of clear pictures of the board would be helpful. Also, for which port (D15, FIDLE, IAC1, etc.) were the settings in your first post?bluebob wrote:OK, that's not a problem . Would a photo of the board be of help ?
Re: Electric fan control
I'll check and get back to you.
Is there a way I can take a screen shot of tunerstudio to include it in the post?
Is there a way I can take a screen shot of tunerstudio to include it in the post?
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Re: Electric fan control
Don't do that. Attach an MSQ. See the Help page here for details on how.
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Re: Electric fan control
Hi, James.
When i put a msq on, do i have to be online for it to capture everything you need?
When i put a msq on, do i have to be online for it to capture everything you need?
1974 Range Rover Classic powered by a ls1 gen 3 5.7ltr coupled to a 4l80e ran with a compushift.
LS1 is ran using ms 2 extra
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Re: Electric fan control
this is an example( i dont have iac valve so i use those spare ports as outputs). with this, fan will only turn on when engine is running. if you use your current settings, when engine is warmed up & dont running & with key on, fan will be on all the time. so this prevents fan on when engine is not running.
you will only need to use your own trigger value, power on value , temp and hystereis.
you will only need to use your own trigger value, power on value , temp and hystereis.
Re: Electric fan control
Hi, My output port settings and my ms version in tuner studio.
I'll get a photo of the board also if it helps.
Thanks
I'll get a photo of the board also if it helps.
Thanks
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Re: Electric fan control
If you're not using the FIDLE output for an idle valve, you can use it to control a fan control relay. Those settings are fine, though you might consider adding a second condition as maik21 suggested.
Re: Electric fan control
I don't think I'm using a idle valve.
So using another would be best.
Whats the best way to go about this then.
I've attached a pic of my board also this time.
So using another would be best.
Whats the best way to go about this then.
I've attached a pic of my board also this time.
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Re: Electric fan control
That picture isn't detailed enough to tell you much about the ECU, but as long as you're not using an idle valve, there's no reason you can't use the FIDLE output for fan control.bluebob wrote:I don't think I'm using a idle valve.
So using another would be best.
Whats the best way to go about this then.
I've attached a pic of my board also this time.
Re: Electric fan control
Ok, Is there anywhere in particular I should be looking on the board or to concentrate a photo on? When I resized it it shrunk it a fair bit.
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Re: Electric fan control
What, specifically, do you need to know about it?bluebob wrote:Ok, Is there anywhere in particular I should be looking on the board or to concentrate a photo on? When I resized it it shrunk it a fair bit.
Re: Electric fan control
Here is a better pic, I hope. And a try at some ouput settings. If these settings are ok. Which pin do i need to take a wire from to switch my relays?
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Re: Electric fan control
Connect pin 30 on the DB37 connector (the FIDLE pin) to your fan relay.bluebob wrote:Here is a better pic, I hope. And a try at some ouput settings. If these settings are ok. Which pin do i need to take a wire from to switch my relays?
Re: Electric fan control
Thanks,
I'll give that a try.
Can i force the fans on to test the settings?
I'll give that a try.
Can i force the fans on to test the settings?
1974 Range Rover Classic powered by a ls1 gen 3 5.7ltr coupled to a 4l80e ran with a compushift.
LS1 is ran using ms 2 extra
Newbie but learning all the time
LS1 is ran using ms 2 extra
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