2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Hi to all,

Recently I upgraded my 1970 Beetle from 1776cc to 2109. The car has NEW everything except for the engine block. Anyway, The car has been down since 8/16. I started the car on 6/17 for the cam break-in process for 20 mins or so at 2000 rpms more or less with no problems at all. Two days later a friend came down to my house to help me with some stuff and I turn on the car for aprox. 10 mins. and it die instantly.

The battery was have dead after 3 charges, so I went to buy a new one since the test in Advance Auto revealed "dead cells". So, It's not the battery :D .

For now I checked for vac leaks in the manifolds and it was ok, did the spark test on MS2 and side A and B make spark. The injectors work since one side was leaking after intake install #2.

Today, I moved the crank sensor a bit outward from the wheel since it was almost touching it. Tried to crank and NADA.

I made a log while cranking.

Thank you for your time...If anything else is needed please post.
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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MSQ might help too.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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I knew one was missing.

I just opened the MS2 and played with the POTS. I got a backfire once.
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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What kind of trigger setup is it?

Edit: configured as 36-1

Your trigger log definitely doesn't seem to be reflecting that setup.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Hybrid,

Thanks for looking.

It's configured as wasted spark with a 36-1 trigger wheel.

It was running great until 8/16. I didn't touch anything then it suddenly died.
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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First port of call would be the crank trigger I think.
The trigger log is definitely not showing a 36-1 wheel.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Can you do just a tooth log instead of a composite log?
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Ok,

I'll do one tomorrow when I get back from work.

Thanks,
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Suppression wires (low resistance wires are not suppression wires) and resistor plugs
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rickb794 wrote:Suppression wires (low resistance wires are not suppression wires) and resistor plugs
The wires came with the coilpack. They are new and the plugs are a resistor type,
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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Spiral wound low resistance wires are not suppression wires.

Google "spiral wound plug wires problems"

The first result is "Truth About Ignition Wire Conductors"
https://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/truth.htm

There are a lot more results worthy of reading.
Correctly identify your MS ecu here
Read the Do's and Don'ts to avoid the common pitfalls before starting your install or asking for help
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Re: 2109cc Boosted Bug won't start...

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hybrid wrote:Can you do just a tooth log instead of a composite log?
Hybrid,

I just made the tooth logs. I have a VR sensor on the car.
2017-07-03_tooth.csv
2017-07-03_toothII.csv
1970 VW Beetle with 2109cc turbo with MS-II v3.0, wasted spark with MSD coilpack, dual table, launch control and 3.88 tranny. Anyway, runs great can't be more reliable than this. All done by me...:) t03 running 48lb. Injectors, Intercooler, W/M injection at 15psi for now.
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