MS2extra on Saxo 1.4

[scatt]

Hi all,
just to let you know that after months work (start with reading, making the loom, testing,...) I managed to make MS work on my little citroen saxo 1.4
Did not drive it on the road yet, need to do a lot of tuning first.
So, I did read about the TS upgrade and Live VE update to make things easier. But do I need a wideband to work with VE autotune ?
My engine is stock and has only narrowband O2 sensor. There is no suited hole in the exhaust for the wideband (I think the hole from the narrowband is much too close to
exhaust valves). So is upgrade usefull without wideband ?
Here some links to my first start and some test later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dvkf9DdtSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCzLmhNg5FA

[grom_e30]

a wide band should be considered a must if you are going to tune it your self. id say paying the extra for the full version of tuner studio is well worth it to

[scatt]

yes, I will do that.
Now that I know everything is working fine, I will start changing the engine too.