TunerStudioMS 0.95

[LT401Vette]

You know it has been a good bit over a year since I coded that piece I couldn't remember how it worked
You have brought my attension to a problem.
This is how it originally worked: It looked in the projectCfg sub dir of you project, if it wasn't there, it looked in the inc folder. That way the inc folder would alway be over ridden by what was in the project. But in my folder moves, I failed to keep it up and I don't think it will ever find it in the inc dir now. I must fix that.

It should find them in the projectCfg dir though..

The idea is, I don't think you should ever need to copy files around, especially not to the application installation directory. I will have UI's to set your inc files, and if they are not part of the release, they will typically go in your project folder.

Like with the ini files already, you should never need to copy those around, from project properties you select the ini you want to use and the app will put it where it needs it.
Ultimately I like to keep it so if you zip up a project folder on one computer and put it on another, it will be fully ready to go.

So do you think it is confusing, or just different? I like the fresh view. Of course it makes sense to me, I have been looking at it every day for a year and a half. Should it be simplified or just explained?

[Morten VJ]

I like your thinking.
Ultimately i could have endles different projekts, from other cars, and just seleckt the projekt i want to use.

When i'm working with the specifik car- code wariant.

Explaining is always good, i don't think mind reading is easy.
But it's an alfa code, so the user just have to eksperiment, and se what's happening.
Else the code development would be slowed.

It reminds me of the erly days with MS.
Wery limitet docomentation, you had to try your self to get it work.

This software is mutch more easy to use than MT. even if it's lacking the documentation.

[hassmaschine]

You know it has been a good bit over a year since I coded that piece I couldn't remember how it worked
You have brought my attension to a problem.
This is how it originally worked: It looked in the projectCfg sub dir of you project, if it wasn't there, it looked in the inc folder. That way the inc folder would alway be over ridden by what was in the project. But in my folder moves, I failed to keep it up and I don't think it will ever find it in the inc dir now. I must fix that.

It should find them in the projectCfg dir though..

The idea is, I don't think you should ever need to copy files around, especially not to the application installation directory. I will have UI's to set your inc files, and if they are not part of the release, they will typically go in your project folder.

Like with the ini files already, you should never need to copy those around, from project properties you select the ini you want to use and the app will put it where it needs it.
Ultimately I like to keep it so if you zip up a project folder on one computer and put it on another, it will be fully ready to go.

So do you think it is confusing, or just different? I like the fresh view. Of course it makes sense to me, I have been looking at it every day for a year and a half. Should it be simplified or just explained?

I like this idea - the worst thing about megatune is setting up a new user. I'm working with a guy in germany and he's not an idiot or anything, but he can't get megatune to work because of the confusing setup required for the ini, config settigns, etc that he needs to do first. and that's if he can get it to talk to MS at all.. I wish your software was in a later beta stage because I would have done just that, set it up on my computer, zipped up the directory and sent it to him. No software troubleshooting over 3000+ miles of land and water. :p

[LT401Vette]

I was actually thinking of putting that as a File Menu option, to Archive or unarchive a file, where it would do just that, zip a project into one file. Then on the other side he could just unarchive it and it would basically unzip it.

[hassmaschine]

that would be pretty slick - it wouldn't be too hard to have a base config and firmware all setup for people with similar cars, they could just download it from their favorite enthuisast site and start tuning.

[Morten VJ]

Celsius again.
This morning the gauges had the same temperature nice
But the temperture shoved -1 deg.C, and the outside temperature was 11-12 deg C

Morten

[LT401Vette]

That sounds like a different problem
They read the same as MegaTune though, right? So is it a sensor calibration thing, or did I make a math error?

[Morten VJ]

I'm sorry to say this.
It shows the correkt temperature in Mega Tune

[LT401Vette]

Simple fix... Thanks for finding it. The 32 was getting subtracted AFTER it was scaled to 5/9

The next build will work. I even tested it this time

[lteeone]

i just wanted to say this a very cool program!! I havent got to use it with my ms yet but so far i looks awesome!

[reckless]

I've tried it - MS1/Extra
I like the easy setup, I think I picked the wrong map sensor though.
I see the F/Celsius bug also.
Bigger problem for me is that the guages don't update as frequently as megatune - so I can't see myself using it.

[LT401Vette]

I've tried it - MS1/Extra
I like the easy setup, I think I picked the wrong map sensor though.
I see the F/Celsius bug also.
Bigger problem for me is that the guages don't update as frequently as megatune - so I can't see myself using it.

What do you mean, slow dash painting? What sort of machine are you running on? If you are using up too much CPU power, it will automatically start lowering the frames per second for dashboard painting.

So there are several factors that effect your paint speed on slow machines:
- Size of gauges - large gauges will require more CPU
- Number of Gauges
- Gauge styles, some gauge painters are optimized more than others. The Analogs are probably among the fastest
- Hardware, CPU and graphics controller. Some older graphics cards that don't support anti-aliasing can really be killed by it being on.

If you are running on a slow/old machine, you might want to turn off anti-aliasing from the
Options -> "Gauge Cluster" --> Anti-alias Enabled

Start with turning that off, that should at least double your paint speed.
Let me know what you are using for hardware & OS.

I intent to default anti-aliasing to off if your processor score is below a certain threshold, but I don't know what that number should be yet.

[Kaas]

Hi Phil.
I have just downloaded TS to an old ibm laptop with internal comm port and winxp. But when I try to load the program after I have installed it, there comes a popup box that says:

About.

Tunerstudio Launcher Version 1.0
Copyright (C) 2008

and I can press the ok butten, but the program does not start! What can that be, are you updating it at this time or?

Lars

[LT401Vette]

Nice! I don't know why you wouldn't understand exactly what that means
I'll fix that right now so I don't forget.

That would mean it isn't finding a JRE.
Download one at:
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

[Kaas]

Cool

How did it go with the turning off the automatic portscan and find it manuelt instead?

[73Inka2002]

As usual, nice stuff here, Phil!

A couple things:
1. Whenever I open TS I get an error (see attached image). It doesn't seem to be a problem, just an annoyance.
2. On VE Table 2, the up and down arrows are reversed. To go up I press the down arrow and to go down I press the up. Left and right seem to be ok.
3. From the File > Open dialog, can it default to Detail view with the newest file at the top? This would make loading the latest and greatest MSQ easier.
4. Can we have the shift + up/down arrow feature like MegaTune has to change a cell value by 5 instead of 1 when tuning a VE table?

That's all so far. Thanks again for another great product!
Robert

PS The colors on the VE tables really help. My VE2 table has VE values of 100 near the bottom and then low values just above the 100 values. It's really difficult to tune in MT because the 100 values block the lower ones, but it looks like it will be much nicer here. Thanks!

[LT401Vette]

A couple things:
1. Whenever I open TS I get an error (see attached image). It doesn't seem to be a problem, just an annoyance.

TS was doing a trim() on the signature (For some unknown reason), MegaTune does not. So, if you had a firmware that has white spaces at the end of the signature, like MS2 Extra and opened an msq saved from MegaTune, that is what you would get. Same thing the other way, save an msq in TSMS and open it in MegaTune and you would get the same warning.
Anyway, it is fixed now for the next release.

2. On VE Table 2, the up and down arrows are reversed. To go up I press the down arrow and to go down I press the up. Left and right seem to be ok.

Your looking at the 3D table right? I can't reproduce this. Is your table turned around backwards? My intended mouse directioning is different from MegaTune's. What it is "Supposed" to be doing is always moving up on the screen with the up arrow, down on the screen with the down arrow, left on screen for left arrow .....
And this "Should?" be consistent for all tables as non are ever treated special.

3. From the File > Open dialog, can it default to Detail view with the newest file at the top? This would make loading the latest and greatest MSQ easier.

This is about my only gripe with using Java as the core language, there is no decent File Dialog. MegaLogViewer has always been troubled with this too. Either you use the pure peered File Dialog, then it uses the native windows dialog, but I can't control anything about it, not even where it opens on the screen or what File Filters to use. The alternative is the swing File Dialog; this gives me very nice control, but it is limited compared to the native windows one and slow. From what I have read, the next version of Java is Supposed to have improvements...
In the mean time, I'm not sure what to do for this short writing my own (hasn't been quite that annoying yet) or doing like MLV and giving the option to use the windows one, but it could only be for some dialogs, like open MSQ. It just doesn't give me enough control to use for open project.

4. Can we have the shift + up/down arrow feature like MegaTune has to change a cell value by 5 instead of 1 when tuning a VE table?

No problem, I guess I just forgot it. I'll put it on the list.

[73Inka2002]

Hey Phil,

Sorry for the delay. I'm running the dual table capability in MS Extra. The table that works is the speed density table (Fuel VE Table 1), the alpha-n table (Fuel VE Table 2)is reversed. I thought that the table might be upside down, but then I would imagine the left and right direction would be reversed too. I've attached a recent msq so you can see what it's doing.

Thanks again for another great product!
Robert