rpm gauge and table showing different values

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rpm gauge and table showing different values

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playing around with the program this morning and noticed that the main rpm gauge and the ve table are showing different values. i'm going to see what happens when i reflash my ecu.
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out of curiousity i also pulled up megatune and megatunix to see what it was showing.
megatune was showing what tuner studio showed
megatunix was correct for both the gauge and the table

i'm running code 029y4
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Re: rpm gauge and table showing different values

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I just went through this with my car on 29w
In the extra code, the ini has the tables are linked to the OutputChannel rpm, where the gauge is linked to OutputChannel RpmHiRes. For some reason, rpm was giving a value of about half of RpmHiRes.

The thing is it almost seemed like the firmware was pulling the ve value based on what rpm said, so the car was running pretty lousy, way lean once you took it off idle. I tried to find any setting out of whack, but didn't. Finally I burned an msq from last weak to it and poof all was fine.

This left me a little suspicious as I didn't find what was changed, but apparently something was changed or corrupt and I really hadn't done any tuning or changes to it with 0.96 yet, and couldn't reproduce it, so I figured I would let it go for now. But if you have now gotten the same thing, I am a bit more suspicious of a write failure or something...

I wish we had a checksum in place in the firmwares, ken has been pushing for this for a long time now.

Let me know if burning a saved msq fixes it.

What I think I will do now is put in an optional verification. Where after every page burn, I will read the page back and make sure it is what it is supposed to be. That would be as effective as a checksum, just slower. But you have probably noticed TSMS writes very fast now as it only writes the deltas, so even reading the page back it should still be quite quick and guarantee delivery.
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Re: rpm gauge and table showing different values

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Hold the phone. There is a problem. I haven't looked into wat yet, but it is the Engine Constants dialog that is messing it up. If you open it and close it, it is changing something, I'm guessing divider to a bad value.

I'll look into and get a fix out quick.
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Re: rpm gauge and table showing different values

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thanks for letting me know

the screen shot was before i saw .96 was up.
i just downloaded the new one and haven't checked anything out yet
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Re: rpm gauge and table showing different values

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That dialog didn't change from 0.951 so that bug has been there.

I just put out 0.961 and it is fixed.

Thanks for spotting this! :)
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Supporting all MegaSquirt versions and firmwares.
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