TunerStudioMS (v0.98) Beta released

[PlasticPower8500]

Sounds great, I'll try that!
It saves the toolbar preference, but not the position.
I'm tweaking your dash a little to suit my color scheme. It's already looking good, just wanted to move some gauges around and add a few extra indicators

The express card basically corrupts everything to a point where once I connect with it, I have to re-load the entire firmware using the boot jumper.
So I never use it.

[LT401Vette]

Ok, I get it, it isn't a TunerStudio thing, it does it with MegaTune too.

[LT401Vette]

shauer,
I'm trying to reproduce your error; I was working primarily against the MSII base code 2.886.
Using the inputs you gave; I used a standard cable, worked fine then 2 usb cables, 2 that don't work with MegaTune, it still came up right.
Then I decided to try switching to MSII-Extra 2.0.1 and first shot there was -931 F!
I was happy for a minute, but then realized I forgot to click the F radio as it is set to C by default.

Switched to C and it looks right again.

Any chance you did the same?
Can you check the std_ms2gentherm.log in you project folder, it will say what the inputs were and what it thought it wrote to the unit.

[LT401Vette]

Steve,
I have definitely found some problem with the Therm Calibration. I'll let you know when I figure out more.

[LT401Vette]

Steve,
Got it! The bytes were out of order on the Therm tables....

I just put out 0.981 with this fixed. Do a "Check For Updates" from the Help menu.

Thanks for finding this, very much appreciated!

[myk777]

I'm still having trouble with the TPS calibration and the TPS adc values for that matter. It is not seeing the "true" ADC values from MS, the output channel is showing the "calibrated" adc values which are 0-1024 (the full range), my real limits are something like 147 and 904. The throttle % displays correctly but this is only after properly calibrating it in megatune, not sure how MT is able to look at the actual adc values?

MS-II B&G v2.886

Mike

[LT401Vette]

Mike,
i don't know how that one slipped my mind, but i think I finally figured out how Eric was handling that one in MegaTune

When you open the Throttle Calibration Dialog, he retrieves the min and max,
Then he sets the min to 0 and max to 1023 so tpsADC will calculate correctly in either case.
If you click Ok, he sets the new values.
If you click cancel he sets them back to the original values.

I think I will follow his logic, the only flaw will be that your dashboard will display inaccurate TP while the dialog is open, this isn't a problem in Megatune because the dash stops, but in tuner studio it keeps going.

I'll put out another point release later today that handles this.

[myk777]

Ahh, I think I understand now what was going on, however it seems there would be no way to ever have a true adc guage like in MS-I, I think this was by design though for the MS-II chip unless of course you calibrated it to 0 and 1024 but then the % would be off so it's one or the other.

Mike

[LT401Vette]

Yeah, you would always need to calculate the real tpsADC, which should be pretty accurate.
However, in MS2 extra the have a real tpsADC.

[woh]

Phil,
Please confirm that all the car/project specific .ini (e.g. msns-extra.ini) and the .inc go into the Mydocument/TunerStudioProjects/project/inc directory.

And is this the default directory for the projects?

[LT401Vette]

Any inc files that over-ride the defaults like thermFactor.in or throttleFactor.inc should go in the inc dir. The app will look in the project inc folder before the app inc folder.

But most other files will be in the projectCfg sub folder of your project folder.
But pretty much anything in there should be managed through the UI. Like if you want to use a different msns-extra.ini from the menu:
File --> Project -->Properties

In the dialog on the 1st tab "Configuration", you can select a different config from the drop down, or click the "Other" button and browse to the ini you want to use. TSMS will copy it to the projectCfg dir and put in the appropriate references.

[suberimakuri]

New version looks good!
It was mentioned you might look into swapping out the librxtxserial modules automatically. Not sure if this was included and you were waiting on feedback but its still a manual one off process anyways.
Keep up the good work!

[LT401Vette]

Yeah, I haven't done the automatic swap. An Auto update should leave it right anyway.
I really want to put together a decent installation script for Linux. Have it place the icons and all, at least for ubuntu.

[racingmini_mtl]

I've been playing a bit with TunerStudio 0.981 and I saw a couple of inconsistencies. In the MSII extra analog dash the spark advance gauge shows *F as the units (degrees not *). Also when I right click to change the DC gauge to another predefined gauge, it's the RPM gauge that gets changed. On the MSII extra analog bar dash, there are 2 (not) cranking "lights" displayed.

Other than that, the interface looks good and it's nice to have the different dash "flavors". However, I have to get used to the interface having used Megatune for so long. One thing I'm not sure about is the menu behaviour: completely disappearing menu items instead of shadowed. I guess I like to see what I'm missing but I see that it can get confusing for beginners. Another thing I like with MT is the project menu when starting the application instead of having to go in the File menu.

Jean

edit: One more thing. It would be nice to be able to change the dash flavor of an existing project. It might be doable but I didn't see how (but haven't played with it for that long either).

[LT401Vette]

Good feedback Jean.

. On the MSII extra analog bar dash, there are 2 (not) cranking "lights" displayed.

- I noticed the 2 Cranking Indicators on that one skin. I'll have to clean that up.

In the MSII extra analog dash the spark advance gauge shows *F

That is pretty silly , I wonder how many degrees the timing is in C?

One thing I'm not sure about is the menu behavior: completely disappearing menu items instead of shadowed.

I'm glad you pointed this out. This is menu selectable, in early version I hid the disabled menu items, but later decided to show them disabled just for the reason you cited, new user confusion. I just tried a machine with a clean install and I see that the menu Option:
Options --> Navigation --> "Show disabled menu items" is checked, but the disabled items are not actually showing until I un-check it and recheck it again..... I'll have to fix that.

It would be nice to be able to change the dash flavor of an existing project.

It is possible. Right Click, File-->"Load Dashboard"
I will get this on the main menu bar too, actually the whole right click menu. Also I think the verbiage could be improved.

Another thing I like with MT is the project menu when starting the application instead of having to go in the File menu.

There is a little different here because you can open other Projects without restarting the app and projects can be any where you want instead of in the application dir. There is an option to load the last project automatically, which I think I will make default to on. But also, I am thinking some means of displaying recent Projects, or project in your TunerStudioProjects folder on start up.

[racingmini_mtl]

I'm glad you pointed this out. This is menu selectable, in early version I hid the disabled menu items, but later decided to show them disabled just for the reason you cited, new user confusion. I just tried a machine with a clean install and I see that the menu Option:
Options --> Navigation --> "Show disabled menu items" is checked, but the disabled items are not actually showing until I un-check it and recheck it again..... I'll have to fix that.

Yeah, uncheck and recheck fixed it and for all projects too without having to redo it.

It is possible. Right Click, File-->"Load Dashboard"
I will get this on the main menu bar too, actually the whole right click menu. Also I think the verbiage could be improved.

I had seen that but it hadn't clicked that what it was for.

There is a little different here because you can open other Projects without restarting the app and projects can be any where you want instead of in the application dir. There is an option to load the last project automatically, which I think I will make default to on. But also, I am thinking some means of displaying recent Projects, or project in your TunerStudioProjects folder on start up.

Having the last project loaded is nice but in my case it would be more practical to have a pop up when starting with something like the last 5 projects. But I realise that this is not the most common case so if there was a list of the recent projects in the top level of the file menu (or right click menu) that would be good (I don't like navigating multi-level menus ).

I also just saw that you can multiple instances of the program running. Any possibility of having the option to open a new project in another window from the menu also? Again probably not a thing most people will need.

One last point, I don't know if you knew it but in the MS2 extra LED dashboard, only the RPM gauge can be changed using the right click method.

Jean

[LT401Vette]

Yeah, it isn't the main stream, but I would like the multiple project access too, along with a number of other support people, I will come up with something. I'm not big on drilling through menus for common functions, either. Also, Opening an msq from a double click.... This latest version saves the user settings(O2 sensor, F/C ...) to the msq so I am looking to make is so you can open an msq without a project. If you are opening a MegaTune msq that doesn't have settings it will pop up a dialog for them, at least that is the plan.

One last point, I don't know if you knew it but in the MS2 extra LED dashboard, only the RPM gauge can be changed using the right click method.

You know what is happening here.... The tachometer has a zOrder that places it on top of the other gauge, but being a half circle, the bottom invisible, but still there and still on top.
To fix it, right click and go into designer mode.
Then right click:
Order --> "Send to Back"
That will make it all the way at the bottom so when you click the other gauges, they will get focus first.

I will do that for the ones that are in the builds.

[LT401Vette]

myk777, 0.982 now should be working correctly for calibrating tps.
I did mean to switch the dialog to an Ok/Cancel button though. I'll get that. Because right now if you close the dialog with the window X in the top right corner of the dialog, it isn't restoring your previous values.

[65looter]

Just downloaded the latest version, It's an amazing piece of software you have coded.
I sure will use it once the Microsquirt is installed

[UnaClocker]

Just a little update.. Tried .982 on OS X again. Still trying to use the serial adapter I've tried to use in the past. Still doesn't want to work for me. It seems to know that the port is there, it didn't suggest any ports, I plugged in the USB-serial adapter, and on the next load, it did recognize it. But claims it can't open the port. Tried running as root, same problem, so it doesn't seem to be a permissions problem. I need to dig up a terminal program for OS X and see if I can either get data from the MS with it, or use a modem with it.. Could be chasing my tail with a half working driver for this adapter..