Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
It's full blown linux install, boots right from uboot.
In fact, here's my thread on XDA for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1677085
It does have some issues though, mainly java programs don't seem to want to trigger faster CPU freq scaling, so the processor seems to want to run lower speeds, even though TunerStudio is running and using CPU power (resulting in slower screen updates).
And sometimes drivers don't initialized correctly the first time, causes weird lag.
But when it's running correctly, it works really well.
Also, screen power offs don't work correctly, it will disable the screen, but it doesn't come back on for some reason... So all DPMS and screen blanking have to be disabled. :laugh:
In fact, here's my thread on XDA for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthr ... ?t=1677085
It does have some issues though, mainly java programs don't seem to want to trigger faster CPU freq scaling, so the processor seems to want to run lower speeds, even though TunerStudio is running and using CPU power (resulting in slower screen updates).
And sometimes drivers don't initialized correctly the first time, causes weird lag.
But when it's running correctly, it works really well.
Also, screen power offs don't work correctly, it will disable the screen, but it doesn't come back on for some reason... So all DPMS and screen blanking have to be disabled. :laugh:
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
There's a userspace app called [edit cpufreq] ... allows you to define scaling triggered by running programs, I have used it on my laptop to force full CPU speed when Java runs in an effort to help serial speed.
Very easy to use/configure, assuming you aren't afraid of a little typing...
One more question: Using openjvm (default Debian) or Oracles finest?
Very easy to use/configure, assuming you aren't afraid of a little typing...
One more question: Using openjvm (default Debian) or Oracles finest?
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
I'll have to check that out.
Its open jre 6, seems to work fine for me.
Its open jre 6, seems to work fine for me.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
On Mageia it's (unfortunately) called "cpufreq", it's NOT the std cpufreq-utils bit, it has its own config scripts etc.
cpufreqd is also capable of similar, and IS part of Debian--- XFCE even has a nice pluging to tweak it.
One more question and I promise I'll leave you alone
Have you tried X11 forwarding to an accelerated display, how does TS like that?
We have been discussing using a) MiniPC (wired serial etc) and std display, or b)minipc and Android tablet (with Xserver) as the "display" & TS interface.
(I don't have any ARM hardware ATM to play with other than my old HeroC, but I'm working it).
cpufreqd is also capable of similar, and IS part of Debian--- XFCE even has a nice pluging to tweak it.
One more question and I promise I'll leave you alone
Have you tried X11 forwarding to an accelerated display, how does TS like that?
We have been discussing using a) MiniPC (wired serial etc) and std display, or b)minipc and Android tablet (with Xserver) as the "display" & TS interface.
(I don't have any ARM hardware ATM to play with other than my old HeroC, but I'm working it).
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
You know, that's one thing I haven't really played with yet, but I would imagine that since the driver for X is a real basic 2D driver, running an X client wouldn't be too bad at all, in fact, it may be just as fast.
I can't think of any reason TS wouldn't work that way... Maybe I'll fire it up and give it a try.
I can't think of any reason TS wouldn't work that way... Maybe I'll fire it up and give it a try.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Since I havent seen any update on this lately Phil....how is progress coming? I ask mainly because I am reaching the 80% mark on my project and am considering tablets now. I know a kindle fire is almost a perfect fit for my dash, but if its nowhere on the horizon, maybe I am better off with a windows tablet? I hate windows, but it does have USB support after all.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
I have been running Jelly Bean 4.2.2 (Android-x86) on my Thinkpad lately... BT is not functional ATM, but USB<>Serial ports work fine.
Boots fully in 8 seconds, just as well as sleep doesn't turn the screen back on.
Yet.
Running on a pretty current 3.8 kernel, running a std Linux distro in a chroot should be NBD, so running Java apps (TS) should be also a gimme.
Running Windows in Virtualbox should also be No Issues if one has the need.
...Giving you an ultimate Android/Linux and Windows at the same time on the same tablet geek experience.
Still working on getting a 64 bit kernel working so all 8G is available.
(probably something stupid, 64 bit kernel should just work with a 32 bit userland)
Boots fully in 8 seconds, just as well as sleep doesn't turn the screen back on.
Yet.
Running on a pretty current 3.8 kernel, running a std Linux distro in a chroot should be NBD, so running Java apps (TS) should be also a gimme.
Running Windows in Virtualbox should also be No Issues if one has the need.
...Giving you an ultimate Android/Linux and Windows at the same time on the same tablet geek experience.
Still working on getting a 64 bit kernel working so all 8G is available.
(probably something stupid, 64 bit kernel should just work with a 32 bit userland)
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
For a dash if it fits right in, I would go with the tablet. Shadow Dash can already load any TunerStudio dash and do all your data logging.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
I would like to get a complete tuning solution. I already have enough gauges to monitor everything I need to keep an eye on on a regular basis...the only things a MS dash would allow me to see I couldnt otherwise would be ignition advance, injectors, etc...but those would be of limited use anyway since the times you would need to refer to them most you would need your eyes on the road(though shadow dash does appeal to me with the HUD feature). I have a question....once you get a full android tuning solution...would you be able to run both shadow dash and said tuning solution at the same time?
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Yes.would you be able to run both shadow dash and said tuning solution at the same time?
Phil Tobin
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Next Generation tuning software.
Supporting all MegaSquirt versions and firmwares.
http://www.TunerStudio.com
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Phil, I just wanted to check if there is any plan to have a tuning app for Android. Since you have the android dash app already I guess you have the expertise to make TS Android edition. It looks like the demand is here
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
I also am very interested in a android based solution. Would make my life easier.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
+1
..may be Shadow Studio
..may be Shadow Studio
Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
I made this video in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UnHlBmxGEg
Works fine in my N900, I can make any change if needed. I let a simple dash in the phone to avoid lags.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UnHlBmxGEg
Works fine in my N900, I can make any change if needed. I let a simple dash in the phone to avoid lags.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
The N900 ran Meego, which was more or less a proper Linux (customised GUI on X11) similar idea but not Android.RCaldas wrote:I made this video in 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UnHlBmxGEg
Works fine in my N900, I can make any change if needed. I let a simple dash in the phone to avoid lags.
I breifly had a N800, tried the same but it didn't quite have the power or memory to pull it off.
The main advantage Meego had was that X11 was native, if there was a real native (and Open) accellerated X11 server for Android running a chrooted Linux with java and all would be a slam dunk. This is in the works AFAICT, at least for Android-x86 and related projects.
Currently the closest thing is running VNC, which works solidly but is slow as hell even on a fast machine with a local connection.
I would personally be fine with Android running as a task in a window, but that seems difficult to do at a proper speed.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Bump for progress on a tuning app for Android?
I'm looking at buying a tablet to replace my archaic netbook for tuning.
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I'm looking at buying a tablet to replace my archaic netbook for tuning.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
is there a tablet I can buy that I can do all the tuning with? and datalogging? Can't really have a laptop on a motorcycle, or should I just buy a datalogger and quit wasting my time?
Thanks.
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Any non RT windows tablet will run full TS and MLV fine. I use an Atom based tablet regularly.
Android tuning is coming, but there is a lot on plate right now, and I won't release it until it is solid and reliable.
Android tuning is coming, but there is a lot on plate right now, and I won't release it until it is solid and reliable.
Phil Tobin
EFI Analytics, helping to simplify EFI
Next Generation tuning software.
Supporting all MegaSquirt versions and firmwares.
http://www.TunerStudio.com
http://www.efiAnalytics.com/MegaLogViewer/
Support the firmware running your engine:
http://www.msextra.com/doc/donations.html
EFI Analytics, helping to simplify EFI
Next Generation tuning software.
Supporting all MegaSquirt versions and firmwares.
http://www.TunerStudio.com
http://www.efiAnalytics.com/MegaLogViewer/
Support the firmware running your engine:
http://www.msextra.com/doc/donations.html
Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Phil, that's great news!
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Re: Tuner Studio running on Android OS ?
Do these non rt windows tablets have a usb port, I want to shy away from bt right now?LT401Vette wrote:Any non RT windows tablet will run full TS and MLV fine. I use an Atom based tablet regularly.
Android tuning is coming, but there is a lot on plate right now, and I won't release it until it is solid and reliable.
Thank you.