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have ms1 with 029 extra. I have a question for tunerstudio but don't see any way to contact them. im using the free edition for now and before I spend $60 to upgrade, I would like to ask them a question. if I cant contact them, what other options do I have with the ms1?
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old guy 2 wrote:have ms1 with 029 extra. I have a question for tunerstudio but don't see any way to contact them. im using the free edition for now and before I spend $60 to upgrade, I would like to ask them a question. if I cant contact them, what other options do I have with the ms1?
Did you go to their site at TunerStudio.com? Their phone number and address are both listed there.

On the other hand, why not ask your question here? Just a thought....... :D

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your a better person then me because I cant find a phone # or email address anywhere in tuner studio or efi anay . if you find it please let me know where it is. my question is im using the free copy of tuner studieo and I think I get a default ve table even when I download someones tune as the table numbers never change. do I need to get the $60 upgrade to make this work? thanks much.
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I found their phone and email as you stated in efi anal. thanks for your help and if you can answer my question, it woud be great.
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old guy 2 wrote:if you can answer my question, it woud be great.
No guarantee that I can answer your question, but there are many here (including Phil Tobin, Mr. TunerStudio himself) who can certainly help you.

Come on, humor this old guy! Post up your question! :D

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Opening a tune file is a basic function and will work with the free version. How are you reading the other tune?

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I swear that it's alzheimers! I skipped right over his question! :oops:

Thanks for answering him Jean!!! :D

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heres the question. ev table numbers never change. make a tune or download a turbo tune, numbers are the same. I know about engine constants and whats in there. is this a default ve table on the free version of tunerstudio and will it take the $60 upgrade to fix this? thanks guys.
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You certainly do not need the registered version to change table values.

Are you able to change them, but then when you re-open that table the changes are gone?
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yes I can change the ve table numbers and changes will stay. I know I can scale by % but I wondered why they are always the same numbers at the start no matter what kind of tune I make. thanks.
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yes I can change the ve table numbers and changes will stay. I know I can scale by % but I wondered why they are always the same numbers at the start no matter what kind of tune I make. thanks.
I'm still not clear on the problem. If you can change the values and they stay, then how are they the same numbers when you start?
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if I download a tune for a 600 hp turbo 5.3 that works from a good source, the ve table numbers are the same as a tune from a 150 hp car. idle numbers are about 15 and the biggest number in boost is 70. these numbers are way small. I believe it needs about 25 at idle 100 in boost. thanks.
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So do you mean that the VE values are about the same, where you would expect them to be substantially different for substantially different setups?

Remember that all the values on the VE table are relative to the Req Fuel that is set and the injector size.
If you have a larger req fuel, all your VE table values will be lower.
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the ve table numbers are identical. ive done 20,30,60 and 80 lb injector in req fuel and ve table never changes. identical numbers. when you upgrade tunerstudio for $60, 1 of the things you get is something called a ve table generator. im thinking that's why the table doesn't change with the free addition. the free addition is still a great tool and the only thing dealing with tunes that's free besides this site. thanks.
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The VE Table Generator is a tool for helping you create a starting point VE Table. It has nothing to do with what values are displayed.
The free version will display what is in the msq's.

Can you post some actual msq files with values coming up the same? Then I can understand what the same is and perhaps what the trouble is.
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The VE table will not change with different injector sizes. The only thing that will change is the req. fuel value. That assumes that all the other parameters are correctly set but that should be the starting point.

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here is a 30 and 80 lb inj tune. the 80 lb tune is from sloppy mech . 30 lb inj tune is same tune with inj change. thanks. hope I did this right.
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As Jean stated above, changing the injector size will not alter the ve table. It will only change the resulting required fuel

Please read the manual to understand the relationship between required fuel, injector size and ve table.
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I will do that and I thank all of you for your help.
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