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Mac connection issues

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I know this must be getting old but I am not able to connect to my microsquirt with my macbook 10.5.x. I have used this stimulator and microsquirt with an old pc that had a serial port but this computer has died. I never had any connection issues before and so I assume that it is not the fault of the cable or the microsquirt or the stimulator. I have even used a serial to digital cable on my old computer that worked fine. This same cable does not work with my mac.

I have read and searched and the recurring theme is that using the correct serial to digital converter cable is the solution but I have tried three including one from efi analytics. When I create a new project and try to detect the firmware tunerstudio does a port search. In the port search window there is a message "D2xx USB and wireless not available in this edition" I have seen others have this same message and it seemed to have been solved by using the correct cable.

Most of my experience is with windows and feel like I am groping in the dark with this mac. I am lost with what to try next.

I dont have any other devices that I can test the cable on but I believe that I have installed the drivers correctly.
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Re: Mac connection issues

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Do you see a port in the Mini-Term drop down?

10.5 is pretty old and 32 bits. There is likely a compatibility issue with the RXTX driver in TunerStudio.

If you have a registration in it, it can use D2XX or JSSC, but for D2XX to work you would need to remove the drivers.

Or try the beta, it uses JSSC by default. Which I _think_ will work on 10.5, I haven't tested it though.
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When I click on mini terminal nothing happens. No windows open...etc.

In the beta download I have tried opening the .sh file and a window of code opens in the text editor but tuner studio doesn't open.

I will keep trying.

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i can afford to buy an ebay pc with xp and a serial port so I may just do that. I am doing this to learn about efi. I dont know if my problems are my illiteracy with apple products or with the cable/microsquirt connection. I also want to learn to use a mac but not at the expense of working on my engine. I just dont want to throw good money at a laptop with limited uses (lack of support for the os and virus problems) just to run into the same problem and find out it is my ignorance with apple not the connection/computer.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks, Matt.
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On OS X don't use the sh file to start it, just double click the jar file.
But the beta may be a problem with 10.5 as it requires a 1.7 JRE and I don't know if there is a 1.7 JRE for 10.5. :(

With 10.5 your best bet is probably using 2.6 with a different RXTX driver.
Try this one:
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio ... ial.jnilib

place that in the same dir as the TunerStudioMS.jar file.

One thing I can tell you with Apple products, they don't carry support long. After a couple years you need to move forward or nothing works.
At this point 10.5 is very old in Apple world.
The OS upgrades are usually free anymore though, I have a Mac Book here from around 2009 that was originally 10.6 and it has upgraded along, but getting kind of bogged down on the newer OS's.

There are still quite a few people using XP with TS but it has finally been declining quickly since Microsoft dropped support. I would be hesitant to get one at this point.
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Re: Mac connection issues

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Thanks for at the replies. I have given up on the MacBook and am currently looking for a different laptop. Actually I he been using my desktop and bring the different sensors in to test and learn. My wife doesn't really like it but at least I am doing something other than trying to solve computer problems on an ancient platform.

Any suggestions for which computer to get would be appreciated. Cheap and working are at the top of the list.

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I forgot to say that I have both a Mac and a pc desktop and everything has been working perfectly with both. It seems to be just my antique laptops that are problematic.

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I traded my wife for her mid2009 macbook pro. Before we traded I tested the connection and after I had to download the driver and it worked easily and perfectly. So I decided to erase her account because it was loaded with her work and set my self up as the administrator and now I can't connect. I believe that I followed the same steps and I definitely used the same driver from the same site but I haven't been able to get it working.

Now I am wondering about using the bluetooth transmitter that DIY sells. Has anyone used this with a mac and does the bluetooth create a readable digital signal for the computer or am I going to have the same problems with getting a driver to convert from analog to digital?

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mid 2009, is that still on 10.5 or is that 10.6?
if 10.6 the driver bundled with TS is the right one to use.

Another thing to watch, have you installed any other software that may have put RXTX on the PC?

BT works well on OS X, but I have never tried it on 10.5, so I can not vouch for that.
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Re: Mac connection issues

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LT401Vette wrote: BT works well on OS X, but I have never tried it on 10.5, so I can not vouch for that.

BT no longer works well on OS X. Some where around Mavericks or possibly Yosemite it stopped working for me.
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Re: Mac connection issues

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I have Yosemite which is 10.10. I know a guy who is good with macs so I will pick his brain and see if he can see anything I missed. I have little enough experience with macs that I am still having to navigate slowly and I could easily miss something obvious.

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LT401Vette wrote:mid 2009, is that still on 10.5 or is that 10.6?
if 10.6 the driver bundled with TS is the right one to use.

Another thing to watch, have you installed any other software that may have put RXTX on the PC?

BT works well on OS X, but I have never tried it on 10.5, so I can not vouch for that.
I didn't install anything between the time it worked and when I tried to reconnect.

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prof315 wrote: BT no longer works well on OS X. Some where around Mavericks or possibly Yosemite it stopped working for me.

What is it doing to you?
It may have been Yosemite, that seems to be where apple broke bluetooth and many other things :cry:

Today I was playing around with bluetooth and OSX on Yosemite, I saw many odd behaviors when pairing. One adapter I have, OS X refuses to create the tty for the adapter when I pair. I mucked with it for a couple hours to figure out why. That adapter works fine on windows and android.
I used a couple different adapters and it seems fine.

However one adapter was coming up with a different name than it's real name, as if perhaps it was caching some past name.

At any rate I put in a new Bluetooth Virtual Comms driver on OS X and Linux for the next release.
This driver still uses virtual comms, but has timings that work much better with bluetooth adapters.

Windows doesn't need it as it now has a direct bluetooth driver to skip the virtual comms.
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Re: Mac connection issues

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LT401Vette wrote:
prof315 wrote: BT no longer works well on OS X. Some where around Mavericks or possibly Yosemite it stopped working for me.

What is it doing to you?
It may have been Yosemite, that seems to be where apple broke bluetooth and many other things :cry:

Today I was playing around with bluetooth and OSX on Yosemite, I saw many odd behaviors when pairing. One adapter I have, OS X refuses to create the tty for the adapter when I pair. I mucked with it for a couple hours to figure out why. That adapter works fine on windows and android.
I used a couple different adapters and it seems fine.

However one adapter was coming up with a different name than it's real name, as if perhaps it was caching some past name.

At any rate I put in a new Bluetooth Virtual Comms driver on OS X and Linux for the next release.
This driver still uses virtual comms, but has timings that work much better with bluetooth adapters.

Windows doesn't need it as it now has a direct bluetooth driver to skip the virtual comms.
I've got one of your BT units and it used to work great on OS X but now while it pairs ok with OS X computers it won't connect with the ECU. I'll try things again with the next release
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