Megasquirt Support Forum (MSEXTRA)

On a totally unrelated forum I heard about a Speeduino ECU which apparently uses Tuner Studio. I was asked for some help with a project, so wanted to check it was a legal use before proceeding.

If they are using our comms algorithm, it is not legal.

Looks like another one trying to sneak in the back door, if you ask me (which no one did of course!).

Ken

kjones6039 wrote:Looks like another one trying to sneak in the back door, if you ask me (which no one did of course!).

Ken

It's not an MS clone - by what I've seen of it (pics etc). It's an Arduino based open source project. But I know very little else.

muythaibxr wrote:If they are using our comms algorithm, it is not legal.

Do you mean the protocol, or the parsing code? Can you copyright a protocol, I thought you could only copyright the implementation.

I am in no way involved in said project, just to make that clear.

DaveEFI wrote:It's not an MS clone - by what I've seen of it (pics etc). It's an Arduino based open source project. But I know very little else.

Yes, I realize it's not a clone. My comment was in reference to the concept of using TunerStudio. Gotta be something wrong with that!

Ken

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 12&start=0 have a read on this it sounds like they have permission to use it with tuner studio.

grom_e30 wrote:http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 12&start=0 have a read on this it sounds like they have permission to use it with tuner studio.

Looks like Grom is correct AGAIN! (just kidding )

I am guessing that Phil may chime in here and put all of our minds to rest.

Ken

on a side not while looking in to this i came across an arduino project called: ardu-stim which is an Arduino based crank/cam wheel signal generator that may well come in handy to megasquirt users.

It says on phils website that his software is used with a number of different ECU and MLV in particular is very usable by many applications that store in CSV format. Says some universities are even using it for data analysis. I have used data from winlog (tech edge) and displayed it with MLV. Not that hard to do.

grom_e30 wrote:on a side not while looking in to this i came across an arduino project called: ardu-stim which is an Arduino based crank/cam wheel signal generator that may well come in handy to megasquirt users.

on a side note, I use that all the time (ardustim). Its clunky but works brilliantly..

grom_e30 wrote:http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 12&start=0 have a read on this it sounds like they have permission to use it with tuner studio.

James and I designed the comms proto, and they don't have our permission to use that. Assuming they are using it.

I appreciate all keeping an eye on these things as we are continuously fighting MS2 Pirates and there is commonly groups of people using TunerStudio without permission.

From looking at the ini, they appear to be using a protocol closer to the MS1 protocol. A basic request reply protocol with no error checking.
To my knowledge the Speeduino project is quite different from MegaSquirt, I believe it is primarily a small group of hobbyists.

In the case of speeduino they did originally start using TunerStudio just because it was there, but did then request permission. I have granted that permission so their use is fine.

OK fair enough.