Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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I have had an ongoing issue with my MS3 Gold box and the Closed Loop Idle Setting DashPot Adder.


If I adjust the DashPot adder with the engine running, it works perfectly. Upon quitting/reloading TunerStudio, I get the following error message and the DashPot adder returns to the default 7.8%. Has anyone run into this, or have a suggestion to work around it?

The screenshots are as follows:
1) Changing the dashpot adder value, I changed it to 10.2% then saved the tune
2) Quitting/Reloading TunerStudio > I get an error message > Error message shown > TunerStudio reverts back to 7.8% [default value]

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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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Hmm, Looks like an ini error with two settings using the same memory with different scales.

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      pwmidle_dp_adder         = scalar, U08, 375, "%", 0.392, 0.00000, 0, 20, 1 
      pwmidle_dp_adder_steps   = scalar, U08, 375, "steps", 1.00000, 0.00000, 0, 20, 0 ; same but steps
TS is enforcing the limit on pwmidle_dp_adder_steps of 20 with a scale of 1, that forces the limit of pwmidle_dp_adder to 7.84

These lines should be changed to this in the ini:

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      pwmidle_dp_adder         = scalar, U08, 375, "%", 0.392, 0.00000, 0, 20, 1 
      pwmidle_dp_adder_steps   = scalar, U08, 375, "steps", 1.00000, 0.00000, 0, { IdleCtl == 3 ? 20 : 51 }, 0 ; same but steps
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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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LT401Vette wrote:Hmm, Looks like an ini error with two settings using the same memory with different scales.

Code: Select all

      pwmidle_dp_adder         = scalar, U08, 375, "%", 0.392, 0.00000, 0, 20, 1 
      pwmidle_dp_adder_steps   = scalar, U08, 375, "steps", 1.00000, 0.00000, 0, 20, 0 ; same but steps
TS is enforcing the limit on pwmidle_dp_adder_steps of 20 with a scale of 1, that forces the limit of pwmidle_dp_adder to 7.84

These lines should be changed to this in the ini:

Code: Select all

      pwmidle_dp_adder         = scalar, U08, 375, "%", 0.392, 0.00000, 0, 20, 1 
      pwmidle_dp_adder_steps   = scalar, U08, 375, "steps", 1.00000, 0.00000, 0, { IdleCtl == 3 ? 20 : 51 }, 0 ; same but steps

Thanks for the feedback but it is way over my head!

Is this something I should be able to fix myself?


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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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This has already been resolved in the current MS3-pre1.5.1 beta.

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Sorry, it wasn't really for you as much as to give the firmware guys a heads up... Sounds like James already has it covered though.

For you, if you update your project to use the attached ini, you should be good.
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LT401Vette wrote:Sorry, it wasn't really for you as much as to give the firmware guys a heads up... Sounds like James already has it covered though.
You'd mailed me about it a month or so ago.

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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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LT401Vette wrote:Sorry, it wasn't really for you as much as to give the firmware guys a heads up... Sounds like James already has it covered though.

For you, if you update your project to use the attached ini, you should be good.
I'll give it a shot, I've never changed an ini before.
Thanks!


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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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Am I supposed to hit the "other/browse" box and find the new .ini file?

Thanks!
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Re: Closed Loop Idle Settings - DashPot Adder Error/Issue

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goodysgotacuda wrote:Am I supposed to hit the "other/browse" box and find the new .ini file?

Thanks!
Yep..
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