Possible bug

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Possible bug

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While making change to a table, I had a section highlighted where I was subtracting from the highlighted area in the table. I noticed the numbers started changing seemingly all by it self! I have seen this behavior before in TunerStudio, also in previous versions but it seemed too random! I could not get it to repeat. Until now! What I found is that if you highlight an area and have you finger on the scroll bar you are in for a big surprise! The numbers will go up or down with the movement on the scroll bar.
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I have also occassionaly seen a cell's value change a second time, after say, selecting a row or area of cells, and interpolate the values.

Although I can't produce scrollbars in a table though. The table is just resized to whatever the window size is.
Even if the window is resized way narrow, the rest of the table is just not shown anymore. But no scrollbars.
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The scroll wheel on the mouse changes the selected values.

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samh wrote:While making change to a table, I had a section highlighted where I was subtracting from the highlighted area in the table. I noticed the numbers started changing seemingly all by it self! I have seen this behavior before in TunerStudio, also in previous versions but it seemed too random! I could not get it to repeat. Until now! What I found is that if you highlight an area and have you finger on the scroll bar you are in for a big surprise! The numbers will go up or down with the movement on the scroll bar.
Yes, as James said; the scroll button raises and lowers the selected cells. This was a requested here on the forum a little while back..
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BigBlockMopar wrote:I have also occassionaly seen a cell's value change a second time, after say, selecting a row or area of cells, and interpolate the values.

Although I can't produce scrollbars in a table though. The table is just resized to whatever the window size is.
Even if the window is resized way narrow, the rest of the table is just not shown anymore. But no scrollbars.
What you may likely be seeing is: TS will interpolate to the true interpolated value, but on some tables the underlying ECU value does not match that value directly, so it is then brought to the closest supported value.
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Sounds like that's what I have seen happen.
Since it are only tiny decimal 'changes' I sometimes see, I wasn't too worried about it.
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If you are tuning by yourself or have some driving on the highway this is a big problem! bumpy road or making changes during a shift etc... = major changes! and if you don't catch it your table is screwed! Also can lead to a stall. I know it has happened! So I am asking please remove or modify so it does not happen when not wanted! I know there are buttons that can be programed to increase or decrease the selected cell the desired amount , and that works fine! I have a lot of roads to use for tuning drivability with little to no traffic. I know most don't bother to tune for drivability I do it often and like it! But now I know what is going on! That feature I feel is totally unsafe for most of my situations.
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I'm sure a setting can be added to disable this for those that don't want it.
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Cool please let us know when these changes will take effect. I will be eagerly awaiting them!
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Re: Possible bug

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This is implemented for the next beta.

You can turn it off via the main menu:
Options --> Preferences --> Mouse wheel scroll changes selected Table cells
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