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Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:51 pm
by prof315
I seem to be having some troubles with test mode in Alpha 14. I'm playing with some Nippondenso pencil coils from a 2.4L Honda Accord (3 wire smart coils) and so far I can't get them to fire. It may be that they need the external transistor mod like VAG coils but I can't even get test mode to fire my LS coils. Maybe I'm doing things wrong so here is how I have been using test mode.

Open the test mode dialog box
enter 12345 in the top box, hit TAB key

fuel pump off
test mode coils
coils on
single coil
coil H (the denso coil I am trying)
3ms dwell
Burn

As I say, even if I switch to coil A which is one of the LS coils that runs my engine I get nothing. And yes I cycle the key before trying coil A

Thanks,
Jeff

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:53 pm
by jsmcortina
Wrong sequence. Follow the video !

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:50 am
by prof315
Ah, got it! I'll try again tonight.

Thanks James!

Jeff

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:20 pm
by NArcher
Will there be any support for Mazda 3/6 2.3L with 6 tooth cam wheels (Maybe 4+2 cam setting)?

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:20 am
by NArcher
Sorry, I just found out that the 04-05 Mazda3/6 cam profiles are the same as the Zetec (36-1 Crank, 4+1 Cam). Thanks for all your hard work James. Being a junior programmer, I know how frustrating writing code can be!

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:11 am
by jsmcortina
93white3400z wrote:I know you said you need to test all combinations for fuel consumption but if you want to see one that doesn't work, I've attached my MSQ for you to try. Gauge either stay at 0 or at a crazy high number.
You haven't set your injector size.

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:23 am
by jsmcortina
kizzoalfa wrote:Than as I understand the Single letter command A is not supported. Do you have any plan that it will work in the future?
I've added 'A' for backwards compatability for the next alpha. It is advised that newserial be supported by devices if possible as all transactions are error checked, the old serial method had numerous weaknesses.
The protocol document is at: http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms3/files

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:15 am
by 93white3400z
jsmcortina wrote:
93white3400z wrote:I know you said you need to test all combinations for fuel consumption but if you want to see one that doesn't work, I've attached my MSQ for you to try. Gauge either stay at 0 or at a crazy high number.
You haven't set your injector size.

James
That could be a problem indeed. Didn't know the existance of those settings.

Thank you!

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:48 am
by jsmcortina
93white3400z wrote:
jsmcortina wrote:You haven't set your injector size.
That could be a problem indeed. Didn't know the existance of those settings.
Thank you!
It was recently added to the "Engine and Sequential settings" page

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 11:47 pm
by NArcher
Can you add support to invert the tps signal? My car has drive by wire and the signal is 5v closed and 0v WOT.

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:52 am
by jsmcortina
NArcher wrote:Can you add support to invert the tps signal? My car has drive by wire and the signal is 5v closed and 0v WOT.
Are you sure there aren't two? From what I've read it is typical to have one forwards (0-5V) and one backwards (5-0V)

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:03 am
by NArcher
I tested all three wires. There is one wire (+5v), (GND), and (5-0V). I tried testing in multiple combinations, but I could not get 0-5V. Is there a way to modify the code for this? I will test again tomorrow to see if I can get the correct signal. Thanks

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:09 am
by jsmcortina
Swap the 5V and GND wires.

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:13 am
by hassmaschine
jsmcortina wrote:Swap the 5V and GND wires.

James
this *may* not work. depending on the design of the TPS itself - on BMWs, if you wire it backwards the sensor will not give a stable reading. Perhaps because of an internal diode or something else..

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:39 pm
by NArcher
I would swap the leads but I'm running
A parallel setup

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:37 am
by NArcher
I guess I would have to make an inverter circuit.

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:44 am
by jsmcortina
See how it goes with alpha15.

James

Re: New serial protocol / MS3 pre1.1 alpha codes 12+

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:14 pm
by NArcher
Thanks James, I'll wait for Alpha 15 and check it again.