Dead time verification
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Dead time verification
Would it be possible to have the facility to enter the test mode on a running engine, flag one or more cylinders up and then make the engine run semi-sequentially instead of sequentially and look to see whether the EGO readout goes leaner or richer?
I appreciate that the test mode has the abilty to do semi-sequential instead of sequential and that the manual says switching can be "on the fly", but when I tried that, the engine stopped and the flyback circuitry traces on my pcb melted. In another thread, http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 31&t=57570 it is suggested not to do this but the manual still hasn't been updated.
17.22 of the MS3 Tunerestudio manual still states
"This allows on-the-fly switching between full sequential and other modes to test the effect on engine operation,
not all options are appropriate for all engine configuration. "
Can you please at least clarify what you can and can't do.
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Marek
I appreciate that the test mode has the abilty to do semi-sequential instead of sequential and that the manual says switching can be "on the fly", but when I tried that, the engine stopped and the flyback circuitry traces on my pcb melted. In another thread, http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 31&t=57570 it is suggested not to do this but the manual still hasn't been updated.
17.22 of the MS3 Tunerestudio manual still states
"This allows on-the-fly switching between full sequential and other modes to test the effect on engine operation,
not all options are appropriate for all engine configuration. "
Can you please at least clarify what you can and can't do.
kind regards
Marek
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Re: Dead time verification
yes ms3 firmware have this "injection sequential testing".
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Re: Dead time verification
This is not the same thing.Marek wrote:I appreciate that the test mode has the abilty to do semi-sequential instead of sequential and that the manual says switching can be "on the fly", but when I tried that, the engine stopped and the flyback circuitry traces on my pcb melted. In another thread, http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 31&t=57570 it is suggested not to do this but the manual still hasn't been updated.
There's a test mode that specifically lets you do this switching, the topic is discussing changing the normal configuration setting.
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Re: Dead time verification
No.
I am talking about the test mode.
The manual says you can change from sequential to semi-sequential "on the fly" but in a thread on the forum, Matt Cramer says "Don't do it" and if you try it on a running engine, then "The engine will stall".
I'd love to have a running engine and swap modes just to see whether it runs a little leaner or richer, but not at the expense of building yet another set of peak and hold driver flyback circuits when it goes bang and stalls again.
Is the manual correct that you can change modes "on the fly" or not? For the avoiudance of doubt, by that I mean if you have it set to being a sequential engine in the general settings, are running the engine normally, enter the test mode whilst it is running, swap it into semi-sequential using the test mode, will it go bang and stall? If not, what was Matt Cramer on about?
kind regards
Marek
I am talking about the test mode.
The manual says you can change from sequential to semi-sequential "on the fly" but in a thread on the forum, Matt Cramer says "Don't do it" and if you try it on a running engine, then "The engine will stall".
I'd love to have a running engine and swap modes just to see whether it runs a little leaner or richer, but not at the expense of building yet another set of peak and hold driver flyback circuits when it goes bang and stalls again.
Is the manual correct that you can change modes "on the fly" or not? For the avoiudance of doubt, by that I mean if you have it set to being a sequential engine in the general settings, are running the engine normally, enter the test mode whilst it is running, swap it into semi-sequential using the test mode, will it go bang and stall? If not, what was Matt Cramer on about?
kind regards
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Re: Dead time verification
Ignore this because it is not correct
You can't go in test mode with a running engine; RPM has to be at 0.
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You can't go in test mode with a running engine; RPM has to be at 0.
Jean
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Re: Dead time verification
Thank you.
Then perhaps the wording in the manual can finally be changed.
It says "on the fly".
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Marek
Then perhaps the wording in the manual can finally be changed.
It says "on the fly".
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Re: Dead time verification
Ignore this because it is not correct
"On the fly" doesn't mean that the engine is running. It just means that you don't need to power cycle the ECU to change the mode.
Jean
"On the fly" doesn't mean that the engine is running. It just means that you don't need to power cycle the ECU to change the mode.
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Re: Dead time verification
Actually it does.
Please see the manual. http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/html/Meg ... 4-291.html
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Please see the manual. http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/html/Meg ... 4-291.html
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Re: Dead time verification
I'm sorry, I stand corrected. I'll let those better informed than I am handle this.
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