Cost and Area Reduction

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Cost and Area Reduction

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I don't know who is designing the hardware for the MS3X board but here's a way to reduce circuit cost and component size. Rather than dissipating the reactive energy (of the injectors) in each injector driver transistor, we can use a single clamping circuit for all eight. This lowers the cost for each of the drivers as they will no longer be dissipating the reactive energy. I also added a capacitor to the clamping voltage rail. This capacitor will lower the ground spikes by maintaining a steady flow to ground and should result in a quieter ground. See the attached PDF.
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Re: Cost and Area Reduction

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Mmmm, he said quieter ground.. SOLD.. hehe. :) Bring on the V4 mainboard. :)
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The MS3X has already been laid out and the first prototypes are in a production queue. The output uses one VND5N07 per channel, the same as the Sequencer and Microsquirt.

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How are the heat sinked?
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Reflow soldered to the board, no external heatsinking.

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So long as Jean publishes instructions for using his P&H board with the MS3, I'll be happy.. I love that board.
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You can be sure that there will be a way to use the P&H box externally.

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I hope that there are now two grounds (power and signal). It would be nice to have a seperate ground return (to the block) for the injector MOSFETs. My SBChevy setup with the MSII has been plagued with ground noise. Please say it is.
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Take a look at the wiring diagrams:
http://www.ms3efi.com/doc/hardware.html#wiring

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Are they isolated from the other ground? I assume that these are MOSFET source grounds only. Is that correct?
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Re: Cost and Area Reduction

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Well? Does anyone know if the power ground and signal ground have been isolated? They really should!
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