MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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i have tried to log it but there is no signal i get nothing on the tooth logger when i crank the car..
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Have you configured the mainboard and MS3X for your input signals?
http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/html/MS3 ... .3-68.html

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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yes i have followed that doc,

i have set my ign settings to 4G63 and now i get 0-250-0-250-0-250rpm when cranking...

but it will not fire.....
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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So now post the stuff I asked for.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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any ideas?
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Please note that attachments on Turbo Bricks are only viewable with an account on that forum. Please attach the files here as well; you can use the "upload attachment" tab below the post to do this.

The tooth logger shows just the CKP signal. You will need to take a composite log as well; this will capture both the CKP and CMP signals in a single log.
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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thanks for your help guys.
here is a composite log any help diagnosing this issue is greatly appreciated.
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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That zip contained a regular datalog. Please take and post a composite log.
See section 21 of the manual: http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/html/Meg ... 3-293.html

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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jsmcortina wrote:That zip contained a regular datalog. Please take and post a composite log.
See section 21 of the manual: http://www.msextra.com/doc/pdf/html/Meg ... 3-293.html

James

back at the 242 AGAIN.... still the same issue.... here is a comp log any help would be appreciated!
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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jsmcortina wrote:4G63 requires both "crank" and "cam" signals from the CAS - otherwise it won't get RPM.

James
There's still no cam signal.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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mmm ok, i have the cam signal wired to my msx3 cam input, any ideas on how to fault find it? i have had my CAS checked my a local distributor re builder here in Melbourne and it was confirmed to be in perfect working cond...
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Have you posted your current MSQ? I'm not seeing it.

What trigger disc are you currently using and what does it look like? The original link doesn't have a photo.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Image

its a Mitsubishi cas on a distributor adapter on the b23 volvo 4cyl
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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As I said months ago, that MSQ WILL NOT WORK. You have set "4G63" but you do not have a 4G63 trigger disc pattern.

You need to set:
"Toothed wheel"
"Dual wheel"
24 teeth
tooth#1 angle - don't know
Main wheel speed "Cam"
Second trigger active on - Rising, or Falling.
every rotation of "Cam"

and you still need to fix your cam input signal.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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jsmcortina wrote:As I said months ago, that MSQ WILL NOT WORK. You have set "4G63" but you do not have a 4G63 trigger disc pattern.

You need to set:
"Toothed wheel"
"Dual wheel"
24 teeth
tooth#1 angle - don't know
Main wheel speed "Cam"
Second trigger active on - Rising, or Falling.
every rotation of "Cam"

and you still need to fix your cam input signal.

James


thanks for the advise i think i am heading in the right direction now thanks to you!

i have crank and cam now... i think!


will not fire now tho.... timing issue?
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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Have you confirmed your timing with a strobe?

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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I got back to my desk and checked that composite log. There's no useful cam signal there and the log shows no RPM-sync throughout.

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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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ahhh crap i thought i was on to a winner! d*** it......
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Re: MS3 dsm cas problem.

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ok so i checked a few things and i am back to square one...

i have checked all my ls1 coild intest mode two where not working... problem fixed.. (12v supply issue)

all injectors and coils now test and working in tunerstudio testmode

i get 250-0-250-0 crank signal....... cam?? unknown..

here is my com log... and tune... does anything stand out ans wrong?


i trys to run ( kicks ect but will not idle....)
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