Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

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tbj
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Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

Post by tbj »

Hi,

Assembled my MS2-V3.0 board today. Everything went smoothly apart from putting in the SP232 UART chip in backwards. Rather than risk damaging the board by sucking it out I decided to cut the pins off. Now I need another UART.

The one that came with the (DIYAutoTune) kit was an SP232. Can I replace this with a MAX232 which are cheaply available at my local supplier? Does it matter what variant? I have a CPE+, NG4, N and IN variant to choose from.

Cheers!
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

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We cross shop a couple of brands to get the best deal on parts for our kits; the main difference is the SP232AEP is made by Exar and the MAX232 by Maxim or Texas Instruments. The variations you mention decode to:

CPE+ = Maxim, 0 to 70 degrees C
NG4 = TI, 0 to 70 degrees C
N = TI, -40 to 85 degrees C - this is the one you want.
IN = TI, 0 to 70 degrees C
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

Post by tbj »

Thanks Matt.

Looking at the datasheet it appears the MAX232N requires 1.0uF charge pump caps instead of 0.1uF ones, and it looks like the ones in the schematic are 0.1uF. I take it I should replace these as well?

Cheers.
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

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The MAX232A variants can use 0.1 uF's.
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

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Found a MAX232ACPE+. Rated -40 to +85C. That should do it, I think. Cheers for the help 8)
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

Post by Six_Shooter »

I've used MAX232's with .1uF caps without issue for a few different applications (not MS related), but the functionality is the same.
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Re: Can I replace SP232AEP with MAX232?

Post by tbj »

Thanks all. I've been able to load the firmware onto the board and can connect to it with Tunerstudio, so I guess it's working :D
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