lights on megastim

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thewestie
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lights on megastim

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Hi first post first build I'll try to be complete. Ms2 v3.0 mega stem 2.2. Useing diy's 12 v power supply. The build went well it tested good at each step. When complete and ecu set on tuner studio all seemed well. All inputs worked. But wont light up on stim Next day started to play with it and set it up and nothing it would connect to tuner studio but no reaction to moving the pots. Looked it it played with it then it would work. . I've noticed that bank 2 lights up and some times 1. I jumped pin 21 and 22 and both lit up. It states board is fine. I've checked all solder joints and checked again on db37 db9. I've never seen ing on or fidle I've jumpered for IAC. Each time I walk away and come back its a problem.
I dont know what an msq is yet and have no data to log

Thanks Steve
87 Turbocoupe 351w swap with a TKO, someday a turbo car again.
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Re: lights on megastim

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To check for a short in the Megasquirt PCB, power up the Megasquirt on a Stimulator or on the car and check the following points for voltage with a multimeter.

You should find the same voltage as the battery voltage on the following points: S12, S12C, the center legs of Q9 and Q12, the left (non-banded) end of D3, the left leg of U5, and the left (banded) end of D9.

You should have 5 volts at the following points: S5, the two +5V holes in the proto area, the right (non-banded) end of D9, the right leg of U5, the left (banded) end of D19, and pins 1, 20, and 31 of the CPU.

Let me know where you find the correct voltages, and where you find the wrong ones.
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Re: lights on megastim

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S12 12.5
s12c 11.20
center pin on q9 has 12.10
center q12 has 12.10 (q9 and q12 are empty i chose to only go with high impedance)
left side of d3 has12.10
left hand u5 has 11.36
left side of d9 has 11.37

s5 4.77 volts
two holes 5.02
d9 5.04
u5 5.4
d19 5.01
pins 1,20 and 31 all have 5.1

thanks
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87 Turbocoupe 351w swap with a TKO, someday a turbo car again.
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Re: lights on megastim

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updated ^^^^^^^^
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Re: lights on megastim

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Well I hate to continue to show my stupidity. Was running 2.92 firmware changed to 3.3.3. Also while i was at it i noticed i was set on microsquit not ms2.
Now i have another problem not rpm synced. Had rpm stim before. No no rpm. If i flick the switch on the stim it will breifly work
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Re: lights on megastim

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I should of bought a assembled unit. Now the 3 lights on the ms2 are blinking. I think ive won the prize for bigest disaster on ms builds.
Going to bed
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Re: lights on megastim

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So I've smoked d19 and several others. Had good power on earlier tests. The list Mat gave me to check was good now not so good. going to electronic store with a list of diods to get.
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Re: lights on megastim

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Matt sorry to give you so much grief Ive replaced D19 with the proper one I figured it out. these are the new tests
s 12 12.07
s12 c 11.21
q9 12.06
q12 12.05
d3 left 12.04
u5 11.19
d9 11.21
2 holes4.83
right sidw d95.01
u5 5.00
d19 right side 0 volts
pin 1 0 volts 5
pin20 5.0
pin 31 5 voltd


thanks
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Re: lights on megastim

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With power off, check the resistance across L1 and L2.
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Re: lights on megastim

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I had to step away from the computer I probably won't be back till after you're gone after I check resistance depending on high or low what should be my next stepto
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Re: lights on megastim

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Does it mater witch side of l1 l2 to test from?
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Re: lights on megastim

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between l1 and l2 on both sides 0.03
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Re: lights on megastim

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Now i have a broken pin 20 to go with the 40.
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Re: lights on megastim

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By "Pin 1 0 volts 5," did you mean 1/2 a volt or 5 volts?
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Re: lights on megastim

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Pin 1 has 5 volts.
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Re: lights on megastim

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Ok, I had thought it was 0.5 volts. The power check is fine. Other than needing to repair pin 20, are there any further issues?
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Re: lights on megastim

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I have 0 volts on right side of d19 and still no ingector lights on stim and lights on ms are blinking. Throttle Enrichmwnt light qnd warm up looks like a strobe. I use a led tester and on pins 21 and 22 solid light no mater how low i turn down rpm
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Re: lights on megastim

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Does the Megasquirt communicate with your computer?
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Re: lights on megastim

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Yes. It shows every thing. It show duty cycle and pulse for ingectors. Afr is being finicky but i can get it to wher its good. It shows iac movment it all looks good on tuner studio to me anyways. I just cant confirm output only light on stim is fuel pump and that seems good.
87 Turbocoupe 351w swap with a TKO, someday a turbo car again.
MS2 3.0 3.4.0
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Re: lights on megastim

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I tried a known good kim stim and same thing. What do i do next. Help
87 Turbocoupe 351w swap with a TKO, someday a turbo car again.
MS2 3.0 3.4.0
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