Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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shadowdash works great on my end but I cant get a mph to read. any ideas?
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If you are using the GPS MPH and have GPS data coming int, then check to make sure the gauge is set to the GPS Speedometer.

Are your data logs showing MPH?
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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I'm curious if/when your future features will include a tunerstudio Droid version? Your autotune single handed allowed me to create a great running car in a night of driving. To be able to do that without my laptop plugged in bouncing around my car would be the be all end all.
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Yep...
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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HI Phil,

I have asked James to have custom transfer curves for like non linear fuel sensors in MS3 as a new feature like for sensor calibraton. Jean than told me that this is easier to implement in the ini and he is right I think.

Why I wanted to do this is because I have a non linear fuel sensor what I want to get displayed in Shadowdash.

Does it possible to add this as a feature into Shadowdash / TS to be able to create a custom ini with like a 5 point transfer curve and run a gauge with it?

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Yes, you can create a custom.ini file and put it in the projectCfg folder.
Both TS and Shadow Dash will pick it up.

What you will need in the custom.ini is to create a new OutputChannel that converts the raw data from the runtime stream to your desired values.
You can do this using a mathematical expression, or if it is non-linear it may be easier to use a look up table in an "inc" file.

Look at the MS1 Extra ini files, you can see how in MS1 the CLT and MAT are converted from raw ADC to temps using the thermfactor.inc files.

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   coolant          = { tempCvt(table(cltADC, "thermfactor.inc")-40) } ; Coolant sensor temperature in user units.
For your table it can be less complex as that is also applying a function to convert temps. You will only need the table function:

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    yourNewOutputChannel = {  table(theRawValue, "yourTable.inc")  } ; Converts raw data based on your inc file values
Once that is done, you can point a gauge at yourNewOutputChannel in TunerStudio's designer mode.
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Hi Phil, thanks for the quick response and explanation.

I created the ini and inc files, they are OK in TS will see how it works in Shadowdash.

Thanks,

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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Hi Phil,

my car is still in pieces so I cannot try ShadowDash MS with my MS3 yet. However I have an Android Phone where I installed ShadowDash already and my Samsung Galaxy 2 7.0 is on the way from the US.

I also started to create special dashboards in TS for Android. My question would be, how could I try the new dash without MS3/ connected to an ECU via BT? (I would be prepared for in car debug by a dash.) I checked my Shadow Dash MS folder on the phone but there is no oriented specific dashboard to change neither there is no project of course. Can it be done manually somehow without MS3?

How should I start from TS ?

I also noticed something what I do not know if expected: when Shadowdash was running on the phone and I connected via USB the application closed by some unknown error. I attached the appdebug.txt (there is not too much as I see.)

As I have noticed the issue occurs only if USB is connected. AS disconnected possible to restart but only if the SD card preparation by the phone is done.

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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Hmm, if you haven't connected to the MS yet, the only way I think you could view the dash is by replacing the Home dash files in the /Shadow Dash MS/ folder.
You can always get the originals back by telling it to load the default cluster.

I'll have to get a way in there for that. I will have an update shortly, I have a number of little improvements, but I have been too busy with the enhancements to TS and MLV for spring time tuning to get it buttoned up for release..
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Hi Phil,

I tried what you proposed and it works. I could display my dash on the tablet (arrived today) and also on the phone.

I noticed couple of things:

- the tablet has 4.1.1 Android and has no issue while connected to PC (as I mentioned the phone could not manage to run your application while it was connected to PC, under connection I was unable to start SD MS).

- on the tablet my designed dash looked too small and I decided to command: restore default dash. After this command against many trial I could not get my dashboard displayed (even if I removed all default dashboards - deleted from SD MS directory - and only mine was copied and renamed to default the tablet showed the very first default dash with the EFIanalytics LOGO any time I restarted application)

- the dash I designed on PC look different on the tablet / on the phone than in TS. I do not know if they need to look the same or some differences are there. Like I made a trial dash - I attached - where RPM meter overlapping and hiding part of the other 4 gauges. In android display there is no overlap they are next to each other, so 5 full circle is visible. Also the gauge texts are in different location, not like under TS as I designed them above / below the center of the pointer.

Thank you.

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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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A very important trick when editing a Dash in TS for Shadow Dash is to make sure the TS dash is the same aspect ratio as your tablet in the view you are targeting..

The beta says the width & height in the top right corner. (Scratch that, the next beta will, it looks like .22 doesn't yet.)

Once the aspect ratio is correct, the dashboards should look very the same.

For editing dashboards I would recommend the beta TS, there were quite a few designer mode improvements, gauge and indicator images and you can set GPS gauges and indicators as well.
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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Hey, Phil, I'm running Android-x86 on my thinkpads, and am doing a lot of build to test/edit/build to get things working.

I want to buy Shadowdash but the DRM 3 install limit will last me a couple days, depending on implementation.
Attempted an old beta but it's expired.

When I do a test install, the user data doesn't get altered, the new system is installed in parallel, select via grub.
Will I have to bug you constantly or will that work?

May try to get TS running in a chroot as well, std /dev/ttyUSB0 etc.
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piledriver, contact me directly I can set something up for you.
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Cool.
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...Any chance to get an option to use a serial port?

Android-x86 working pretty good on my X200, but BT is borken ATM (not just for my hardware, stack changed a lot in JB 4.22 and needs reimplemented)

...but I do have a fully working real, live serial port. three if needed.
(/dev/ttyS0 is the Wacom pen setup, which works peachy after a little effort on my part)

Tried it on my old HTC Hero-C, the betas worked, but the thing is too slow/buggy to be really useful.

Power is no issue for the X200T, core2duo and 8GB RAM/Hybrid 750GB HDD.
Jelly bean looks/works great on a 12.1" screen, using with a Wacom pen.(or the trackpoint)
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Yes, quite soon.
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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LT401Vette wrote:A very important trick when editing a Dash in TS for Shadow Dash is to make sure the TS dash is the same aspect ratio as your tablet in the view you are targeting..

The beta says the width & height in the top right corner. (Scratch that, the next beta will, it looks like .22 doesn't yet.)

Once the aspect ratio is correct, the dashboards should look very the same.

For editing dashboards I would recommend the beta TS, there were quite a few designer mode improvements, gauge and indicator images and you can set GPS gauges and indicators as well.
Phil,

I still do not have connected Shadowdash to my car so I try all things offline. Unfortunately I could not make any dashboard with TS which fully fit to my Phone / Tablet. The method I used is to replace with my TS dashboard the default landscape dashboard in Shadowdash folder.

The TS dash never look the same on Android. One major thing I noticed: I worked a lot on font style what I implemented on TS but look like on Android in Shadowdash there is always a default font style is in use.

Can you try my dash if it is fit into fullscreen in your Nexus7? On my Samsung Galaxy Tab2 7.0 it is about 60% of the screen and the meters are not in overlap but something different. So the designed TS dash is not displayed well on Android.

I also noticed that when I start offline with my tablet (no WIFI) than Shadowdash is keep saying I should buy it, however I did already:)

I attached the two scrrenshot and the .dash.

Thanks,

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Very important when you make a dash for Shadow Dash in TS:
You need to shape TS's dashboard close to the same aspect ratio as your target shape on Android. So, if you are going to use the dash in landscape mode, then when designing it with TS setup with a similar 16:9 aspect ratio.

If you use the alpha TS, when in designer mode it will tell you the dashboard size in the top right, so you can set it to 1280 x 720 or anything that maintains that aspect ratio.
It looks like in the screen shot of TS, that TS is setup up more or less square.
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Re: Introducing Shadow Dash MS

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How do you get the alpha TS? I have been wanting the screen size featuring since mentioning it :)
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Yeah the beta is over due for an update. I thought I would have that out on Friday, but then some other issues popped up.
You can get the Alpha at:
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/alpha/
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