Introducing Shadow Dash MS

piledriver · Post by **piledriver** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:06 pm

Driving the Jetta this week... had the phone with me.

A MS isn't even really required for this to be a very useful app, if you had a way to log when not connected and just use it as a geologger and voice recorder, it would be one of the better geologgers/trip//race recorders... allowing one had a script to parse MSLs>some std format and a voice comment function... and could generate logs when not connected, of course.

Could potentially be used to prerun rerun racecourses in a sim etc...

Sorry for the rambling observations, but it simply works better than some "built for purpose" GPS apps I have tried.

Kristof · Post by **Kristof** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:19 am

First of all congratulations Phil for this great piece of software.
This is something I waited a long time for.
I tested it on an HTC Desire HD and on an Google Nexus 7.
On both it runs great, on the Nexus 7 it is noticeable faster than on the Desire HD.

On little thing I can report:
On the Nexus 7, when you go to the second dashboard, you can see 1 pixel row of the first dashboard on the left.
It is not always there but most of the time, both in portrait and landscape mode.
If you take a look on the screenshots you can see it.
Version was 0.99.5 and 0.99.6.

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:03 am

I have seen that on my Acer a510 as well.. I haven't dug into why something is 1 pixel short yet.

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:49 am

piledriver wrote:Driving the Jetta this week... had the phone with me.

A MS isn't even really required for this to be a very useful app, if you had a way to log when not connected and just use it as a geologger and voice recorder, it would be one of the better geologgers/trip//race recorders... allowing one had a script to parse MSLs>some std format and a voice comment function... and could generate logs when not connected, of course.

Could potentially be used to prerun rerun racecourses in a sim etc...

Sorry for the rambling observations, but it simply works better than some "built for purpose" GPS apps I have tried.

Sorry I missed that post. Actually I intend to make a non MS version too. Shadow Dash GPS.

shadowpucci · Post by **shadowpucci** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:15 pm

LT401Vette wrote:Do you have "Prevent Sleep Mode" turned on in Preferences?
It looks as though it is not releasing the wake lock unless you exited the app with the back button, that could cause such a problem. It should be releasing it when ever the app leave the foreground.

Yes, i got it ticked... and is the same thing than i thik, it doesnt release the prevent sleep mode.

I have download the 99.7 recently. I will test it. Thank you

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:19 pm

Yep, it should be fixed in 0.99.7.

I had noticed my tablet not going to sleep a couple times too, I just didn't realize that was my own fault

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:21 pm

BTW Kristof,
0.99.7 should get rid of that piece of the previous dash on the left too.

wrbusa · Post by **wrbusa** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:30 pm

This is really cool software! Can't wait until it can do tuning as well

Tested this both on my Rezound and Droid X. I'm running MS2e 3.3a5 w/ Gslender v2.8 mods

The Rezound (ICS) has trouble connecting, it just kind of flashes on and off while connecting, but never connects. MS logger on the same device connects fine, logs etc.

The Droid X (Gingerbread) connects and logs fine, however GPS doesn't work. I've tried all the possible phone settings, and the GPS works in maps and other apps, so it must be one of those hardware specific bugs, that and it's old (relatively speaking).

Either way, phone screens are kinda small for my liking, so I see a tablet in my future

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:47 pm

Make sure MSLogger is not still holding the bluetooth connection. I don't think it lets go of it unless you use the exit button. Then Shadow Dash can't connect to that same bt adapter.

12lbchevelle · Post by **12lbchevelle** » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:46 pm

Hello,

This is on a Galaxy S3.

Up until now I've been using the original version 0.99.5? and was having excellent connectivity.

Upgraded to 99.7 last night and it took a few attempts to finally connect. The app has always instantly recognized the bluetooth when I turn the key on, thats not the issue. It was when I entered the password and hit OK, the app would say that I needed to power cycle. I would do so and it would never connect afterwards. It seems like I have to restart the phone because the app gets bugged out and wont connect no matter how many power cycles, nor through exiting app and starting over.. I remember it taking a couple attempts when I first downloaded 99.5 but then it worked better. I will repost tomorrow after more testing.

Right now, other than the connection issues the biggest thing that would improve my experience is if there were a way to specify the needle of a gauge to not point past the specified min and max values in the gauge settings. There is something about having the needle start moving only when under positive boost that is advantageous to the mind's comprehension of the display. See pic below for example; the 0-30PSI boost gauge points to the third quadrant when the engine is in vacuum.

The only other issue is that the app isn't remembering when I change the coolant temp gauge in the picture above to instead rear AFR. The app remembers my change from the RPM gauge to the boost gauge every time so I don't get why it isnt working for that gauge..

Thanks again for the kick ass addition to my driving experience

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:55 am

The app has always instantly recognized the bluetooth when I turn the key on, thats not the issue. It was when I entered the password and hit OK, the app would say that I needed to power cycle. I would do so and it would never connect afterwards. It seems like I have to restart the phone because the app gets bugged out and wont connect no matter how many power cycles, nor through exiting app and starting over..

Let me try to get this straight.
The app is already open, but phone is locked, so it is the phones password you are entering? So in this scenario is the phone asleep?
Is it not connecting to the Bluetooth right away or BT is connected, but can't go online?

What message that you need to power cycle? There is no power cycle message in Shadow Dash?

the biggest thing that would improve my experience is if there were a way to specify the needle of a gauge to not point past the specified min and max values in the gauge settings. There is something about having the needle start moving only when under positive boost that is advantageous to the mind's comprehension of the display. See pic below for example; the 0-30PSI boost gauge points to the third quadrant when the engine is in vacuum.

This works the same as TunerStudio, you can assign an OutputChannel that doesn't go out of range.
The gauge it looks like you are assigned to normally starts with a negative lower end so it will stay in range with a full range outputchannel. You can add a custom.ini with the new boundaries.

Code: Select all

[OutputChannels]
    boostOnlypsig = { map >= barometer ? (map - barometer) * 0.1450 : 0 }

[GaugeConfigurations]

       boostpsigGauge    = boostOnlypsig ,     "Boost",        "psig",    0, 21,      -15,    -15,  30, 30, 1, 1

Then that gauge will be in the list and the needle will not go below 0.

The only other issue is that the app isn't remembering when I change the coolant temp gauge in the picture above to instead rear AFR. The app remembers my change from the RPM gauge to the boost gauge every time so I don't get why it isnt working for that gauge..

I'm not sure either...
Is there a Rear AFR gauge in MS3? Even in the 1.05 firmware I see AFR 1-8
It doesn't save the gauges individually, it saves the whole .dash file. So if you change both at the same time, it sort of has to save the changes to both, or none if there is an error during the .dash write, which is the only thing I can think of to cause it.

FricFrac · Post by **FricFrac** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:03 am

I'm running 99.7 on my Samsung Note and the newer versions have helped with the artifacts from rotation and the gauges are now saving. My issue now is that the gauge will work and save in vertical mode but when I rotate to horizontal mode the gauge change doesn't follow (eg still has the default in horizontal mode). I guess a work around would be setting the gagues in both orientations but the pull down menu in horizontal mode goes off the screen so you can't access the bottom portion of the screen to save the configuration.

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:17 am

FricFrac wrote:I'm running 99.7 on my Samsung Note and the newer versions have helped with the artifacts from rotation and the gauges are now saving. My issue now is that the gauge will work and save in vertical mode but when I rotate to horizontal mode the gauge change doesn't follow (eg still has the default in horizontal mode). I guess a work around would be setting the gagues in both orientations but the pull down menu in horizontal mode goes off the screen so you can't access the bottom portion of the screen to save the configuration.

When you rotate it uses a completely different dash, otherwise the layout could get very messy.

Which pull down goes the screen? You should be able to scroll to it.

smokeysevin · Post by **smokeysevin** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:35 pm

Wow very cool, I have been waiting for something like this to come along, now I need to figure out which device looks the best in sunlight and is the easiest to waterproof.

Thanks

Sean

12lbchevelle · Post by **12lbchevelle** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 1:01 pm

Let me try to get this straight.
The app is already open, but phone is locked, so it is the phones password you are entering? So in this scenario is the phone asleep?
Is it not connecting to the Bluetooth right away or BT is connected, but can't go online?

What message that you need to power cycle? There is no power cycle message in Shadow Dash?

Its not when I enter the phone password, its the "1111" password of bluetooth chip in the MS3. The phone is not asleep in this scenario. I think the message "Connected to 1968" pops up on the app but then dissappears and the app never says its trying to go online. Anyways, it has worked the last two times I have gone into the car so the issue may have worked itself out. Also, I checked and noticed I am using 99.6 instead of 99.7 like I stated.

There definitely is a power cycle message in Shadow Dash. I won't be able to show a screenshot until it happens again but it is a large box that says something like "Sometimes when you are first trying to connect you may need to power cycle the controller"..

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:08 pm

Yes there is a power cycle message, but that should be a one time setup, only if you have to pair the device. Do y it?ou have to pair your bt adapter every time you use it?

12lbchevelle · Post by **12lbchevelle** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 3:52 pm

I don't need to pair them every time. I've only had to pair with my phone one time. I do have to enter the 1111 password every time I turn the key on though.

Bossman · Post by **Bossman** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:31 pm

This thing is absolutely amazing!!

Does anyone have any idea or sources for a way to mount my bluetooth on a small flexible cable? I just don't have those extra 3" of space to comfortably install the bluetooth. It kinda tweaks the connector as it sits now.

AdamR · Post by **AdamR** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:23 pm

I got a cheap 10 ft serial extension from amazon. I keep my bluetooth adaptor in my console.

AdamR · Post by **AdamR** » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:25 pm

LT401Vette wrote:Yes there is a power cycle message, but that should be a one time setup, only if you have to pair the device. Do y it?ou have to pair your bt adapter every time you use it?

I get that message occasionally.
Also, on older versions, I would have to connect then exit and connect again to get the gauges to work. I haven't tried the latest version, but I will let you know.

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