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Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Greetings.

I've got a egt sensor attached to ms3-pro through ad597 and a divider to analog3 input. The egt reads well in TunerStudio. When I connect a tablet, egt always stays at -18C. In the preferences "can commands" deactivated.

Any ideas on how to make it work?
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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All other gauges are working fine?
Do you know what version firmware you have?

BTW on the newer firmwares (1.3+) the preference is generally to have CAN_COMMANDS turned on. You will get faster data rates.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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LT401Vette wrote:All other gauges are working fine?
Do you know what version firmware you have?

BTW on the newer firmwares (1.3+) the preference is generally to have CAN_COMMANDS turned on. You will get faster data rates.
Speedometer (set to read from ms) might not work, I have to check again.

As for firmware, I first used 1.3.3 and then 1.4 alpha 9. On both, if I activate CAN_COMMANDS Shadow wouldn't connect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsJQUh8 ... e=youtu.be
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Ok, sounds like the old, your using a firmware where the right ini wasn't on the server yet problem.

I just put it out there. If you try to connect again while you have internet access, it should be able to update to the right ini file.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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LT401Vette wrote:Ok, sounds like the old, your using a firmware where the right ini wasn't on the server yet problem.

I just put it out there. If you try to connect again while you have internet access, it should be able to update to the right ini file.
I'll try that. Just confirming for now, Speedo does not work.

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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Ok, Phil, after connecting with an access and upgrading the ini egt started to work!! (with CAN_COMMANDS activated or deactivated. It does not affect connectivity or the readings. Could be the faster rate as you said, so I left it ON)

Now it's time to fight with a speedo. Neither ms, nor gps speedo working, although the satellites pick up is poor and intermittent, so my intention was to use the speedo from ms.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the input.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Ok, new issues popped up.

After ini auto-upgrade, as I reported earlier, egt started to work, but gear indicator has stopped. Now it stays at zero all the time. MS speedo is dead. GPS speedo is working. Tried all the known settings. Seems like I'm doing something wrong.

Could be anything done on these matters?

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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Is that just on that 1st dash?

There is an outstanding bug where if you set a gauge on the 1st dash to an ECU gauge, it does not work after restarting the app.

Try those gauges on Dash 2 or 3.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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I'll keep posting the progress. Thanks a lot for quick responses.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Unfortunately, speedo and gear indicator don't work. Just tried 1 and 2 dash. Moreover, when the ini was updated, ShadowDash began to work slowly. Not the reading, but the program itself. Touch and wait more than it's been before until the menu drops down. On the other hand, readings themselves seem to be faster.

Also, I found someone asked about odometer. Is it still in the plans?

Thanks beforehand for any input.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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On that 1st dash by default the lower right readout tells the data rate.

The only reason I can think of that the response would seem lower is the higher data rate taking more resources? I have never seen that happen though. Hard to picture if it is a pretty current multi-core device.

On the gauges not working, I'm at a bit of a loss. With the right ini if it works on TS they should be working just the same on SD. There doesn't appear to be anything special about those channels, they are straight reads from the ECU.

Maybe there is something in your appDebug.txt file in the dir:
/Shadow Dash MS/
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Dear Phil,

Everything looks good after I dug deeper into wiring diagrams. It appeared that speed sensor takes ground from the dash, sends the signal to the dash and then there is an output of speed signal to the ecu. If the dash is unplugged, not only signal is cut, but also is a ground to the sensor.

Shadow Dash works fine now, with all of the readings being active and correct. The only flaw is that the speedo reads in mph, no matter what is chosen in the preferences. Is it a bug? Looks like it happened after an update. As seen in the first post, the speedo is in the kph.
And the old question, if odo is still in the plans?

Thanks for your help
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Shadow Dash works fine now, with all of the readings being active and correct. The only flaw is that the speedo reads in mph, no matter what is chosen in the preferences. Is it a bug?
Actually, it looks like that is being handled differently in this new ini. SD is going to need to support the new way, which is the preferred way to handle it.

In the mean time... It you copy the CurrentTune.msq from your TunerStudio project to your phone in the dir:
/Shadow Dash MS/MS3/

It should display KPH assuming you have that set in TS.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Great news!
TS msq solved all the problems with ShadowDash. Even 1st dash stopped freezing after restart. Glad I can put the cluster back to where it belongs.

Hope, odo is on the list... That'd complete the cluster!

Phil,thanks a lot for the quickest customer support ever!
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Hope, odo is on the list... That'd complete the cluster!
It is :)
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Dear Phil,

Unfortunately, happiness didn't last long :) Two days ago speedo converted to mph by itself. And then I upgraded to alpha10, copied mycurrent.msq and after that there was no connection.
I have decided to stop playing with alphas for a while and load 1.3.4. Same story.
Uninstalled and reinstalled ShadowDash.
It now behaves absolutely the same way as it described in the very first post. Having wi-fi enabled, no ini upgrade is coming in while connecting (I expected this to happen as it did last time).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2y8dNnGkk

What could be done to cure this problem?
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Same deal as last time, the ini's for alpha 10 weren't on the server yet.

This seems to be how I generally find out there is a new firmware, someones Shadow Dash breaks after updating :?

The ini's are up there now, it should fix itself on the next connect
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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The ini seems to be only for alpha 10, not for 1.3.4. I reverted to alpha, and Shadow picked up the update.
As for kph->mph, I believe transferring msq from TS is the only way to go.
Phil, is there a way to manually correct the ini file, so the user can do it himself?

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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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Sorry, did not realize there was a new 1.3 posted to stable.
It is there now.
Phil, is there a way to manually correct the ini file, so the user can do it himself?
if you edit the ini files, find this row:

Code: Select all

    defaultValue = prefSpeedUnits, 0
change it to:

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    defaultValue = prefSpeedUnits, 1
Then any time the CurrentTune.msq may be deleted or removed, the new default will be kph.
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Re: Shadow Dash and egt reading.

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An interesting thing happened.
I edited the ini file the way you mentioned. I also changed the name of sensor01 there and yellow and red zones of the tach.
Afterwords, I reset Shadow to default.
The dash became to look as expected with new settings, but speedo labeled in kph was reading in mph :lol:

It started reading real kph after replacing default MyCurrent.msq with the TS's one.
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