Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Hi,

I am using Over Run fuel cut on a 13B turbo rotary. It is working quite well by improving drivability on decel. There is however a smallish jolt as the fuel returns.

I'd like to enable progressive return to further improve drivability HOWEVER the Tool Tips tell me not to do that with Staged injection which of course is a normal feature of a rotary motor's fueling. Why?

The engine is running just on primary injectors at that point. What's the risk with progressive return here?

Thanks for any advice,
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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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The code doesn't support it, so it likely to do strange unexpected things. That's why the tooltips says not to enable it.

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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Arran

Could you post you MSQ and data log? I would love to see how you have it set up.
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Thanks James, is there any likelihood that the code will support over run fuel cut and staged injection?

Whittlebeast, I'll post up MSQ/MSL if you put yours up first!
jsmcortina wrote:The code doesn't support it, so it likely to do strange unexpected things. That's why the tooltips says not to enable it.

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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Current MSQ attached
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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Hi, just thought I'd ask whether there might be any thought being put into progressive fuel cut and progressive fuel return for staged injection?

Also I mentioned it in another thread, support for electric water pump would be smashing :)

Any chance of these couple of things being incorporated into 1.3.3?
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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Hi,
I just applied firmware 1.3.3. Progressive fuel return does not look to be supported yet.

Progressive return is of most interest because of the jolt experienced when coasting down, on decel the sudden return of the fuel makes the car surge quite a bit.
RX7 Series 2 13B Turbo. Megasquirt 3 with 3X Expander and V3 CPU. Firmware 1.4.1
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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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That's a 1.4.x feature, it will not be incorporated in 1.3.x

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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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that's weird, double post
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That is good news! Is that something that is in the current 1.4?
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Oh wait, no. The staged injection restriction is unchanged.

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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Bump, still keen on this.
Progressive return when the engine is on decel would help with drivability
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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Congrats on releasing firmware 1.4.

Did the progressive fuel return with staged injection make it into 1.4?
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bueller?
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The staged restriction is still unchanged.

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Re: Progressive fuel cut/fuel return and staged injection

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Hi again,

Any developments on development of progressive fuel cut and fuel return on staged injection?
RX7 Series 2 13B Turbo. Megasquirt 3 with 3X Expander and V3 CPU. Firmware 1.4.1
Knock module, twin EGT, real time clock, WBO2, full sequential fuel and spark
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