table switching?
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table switching?
so first if I set it to switch above 100 kpa for turbo application will veal switch as well and tune it? what is the main purpose of it just to get more resolution?
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Re: table switching?
I table switch around 3000rpm. I don't get much more than 150kpa so my table gos to 170. Then switches where I only have 2 vacuum bins and the rest is boost. I have an effective 26x31 ve table with resolution around idle/cruise/ and peak tq. Auto tune will work with a custom ini code added to the file. Took some working with Phil to make it work but works great now
I'd have to find the page and link you when I get home
I'd have to find the page and link you when I get home
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Re: table switching?
sweet yeah if you don't mind find the file id like to have it for down the road
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Re: table switching?
You might post this into the TunerStudio section if the info in this link doesnt work http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... &hilit=ve3
I forgot we got VE3 working but not my secondary injectors I run till just about the last post
I forgot we got VE3 working but not my secondary injectors I run till just about the last post
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Re: table switching?
Tuner studio will now tune both tables in VEAL when using table switching without a special ini file..... PHIL just messaged me with that info today, I was looking for the custom file you were talking about and he said it wasn't needed in the current tuner studio. Just figured I would share the good news.
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Re: table switching?
So why the two vac bins on ve3 table?? And why not just set up one for non boost and have all boost in the other?
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Re: table switching?
Because I rpm switch to give good resolution there too. I have the 2 bins for them times when your not quite in boost gearing up on the freeway and a vacuum cell for shifts
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Re: table switching?
I see! I always looked at it as kpa switch but if I do it that way I can't really get the rpm resolution higher just the kpa?
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Re: table switching?
Do you do spark too
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Re: table switching?
I'll post my tune when I get home. I have 26 kpa bins and 31 rpm bins
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Re: table switching?
I don't switch timing, just fuel
Heres my msq, I switch from VE1 to VE3 at 3000rpm. I chose that rpm as I cruise near 2500 and most of my day to day gear ups are below this point in town.
Heres my msq, I switch from VE1 to VE3 at 3000rpm. I chose that rpm as I cruise near 2500 and most of my day to day gear ups are below this point in town.
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Re: table switching?
Thank you for you msq that helped! Question and concern I know you said it's in the code but if memory serves me right don't we do a hardware mod as well soldering a wire to the chip directly? What if that cone undone? What would happen?
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Re: table switching?
I'm running Pro so there is none of that. I think ms2 is the chip that needs that mod, and in my opinion if you are worried about the jumper coming undone, I'd worry about all the other solder joints you make then too!
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Re: table switching?
I'm sure of my soldering! Would just like to kno what would happen? You know peace of mind!
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Re: table switching?
So after rereading the Manuel it seem the yellow wire is only need for hardware install IE if you use a rocker swicth to switch the maps is this correct? Or did I misunderstand it, James ?
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Re: table switching?
The jumper at the pins, and the going low guard circuit, are only needed for a mechanical switch. If you're switching in the firmware - TPS or RPM - you don't need the mods.
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Re: table switching?
kaeman wrote:Tuner studio will now tune both tables in VEAL when using table switching without a special ini file..... PHIL just messaged me with that info today, I was looking for the custom file you were talking about and he said it wasn't needed in the current tuner studio. Just figured I would share the good news.
Thanks for the good news.
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Re: table switching?
Thank you that brings added peace of mind!!dontz125 wrote:The jumper at the pins, and the going low guard circuit, are only needed for a mechanical switch. If you're switching in the firmware - TPS or RPM - you don't need the mods.
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