I see in the log idle is better but still going a little lean.
Try setting the VE cells up to 50 kpa to 115 so when map rises it will not go lean.
I think turning off idle advance and adding a little fuel at idle will help a lot.
David
Oscillating Idle
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Re: Oscillating Idle
1976 Datsun 280Z L28ET Garrett GT35R T3-T04E stage3 50 trim 63 A/R housing custom grind cam 2000-6000 rpm 440cc injectors intercooled 18 lbs. boost
3" exhaust turbo back LC-1 o2 sensor Hallman manual boost controller EDIS 6 ignition batch fire 60mm throttle body 5 spd T5 borg warner 3.54 lsd
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Re: Oscillating Idle
1. Yes. Might be due to air pump (supercharger). BOV not large enough to blow off 100% at idle. MAF goes from 3-9 gm/sec.turbo conversion wrote:...
1. I see in the log idle is better but still going a little lean.
2. Try setting the VE cells up to 50 kpa to 115 so when map rises it will not go lean.
3. I think turning off idle advance and adding a little fuel at idle will help a lot.
David
2. 50 is far above idle, which is 20-30.
3. Will try changing Idle Advance from Adaptive to RPMs. Fuel was added previously.
1988 Mustang GT, 59k miles, Orig Owner
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47
Re: Oscillating Idle
just for curiosity sakes can you back out the idle screw and see if you can reach 80-90%dc
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Re: Oscillating Idle
The kpa at idle is not 20-30 in the data log, it swings from 32.9 to 45.5 that is why I said 50.
As kpa approaches 40 fuel is being trimmed and at 45 even more fuel is being trimmed.
Try turning off all idle advance settings so the timing at idle will be a consistent 16 deg.
David
As kpa approaches 40 fuel is being trimmed and at 45 even more fuel is being trimmed.
Try turning off all idle advance settings so the timing at idle will be a consistent 16 deg.
David
1976 Datsun 280Z L28ET Garrett GT35R T3-T04E stage3 50 trim 63 A/R housing custom grind cam 2000-6000 rpm 440cc injectors intercooled 18 lbs. boost
3" exhaust turbo back LC-1 o2 sensor Hallman manual boost controller EDIS 6 ignition batch fire 60mm throttle body 5 spd T5 borg warner 3.54 lsd
3" exhaust turbo back LC-1 o2 sensor Hallman manual boost controller EDIS 6 ignition batch fire 60mm throttle body 5 spd T5 borg warner 3.54 lsd
Re: Oscillating Idle
I don't know what "80-90%dc" means. Besides, backing out the screw will have no effect since the IAC (IAB) will compensate.ashford wrote:just for curiosity sakes can you back out the idle screw and see if you can reach 80-90%dc
I was just watching the live "tracer" move around the cells in real-time.turbo conversion wrote:The kpa at idle is not 20-30 in the data log, it swings from 32.9 to 45.5 that is why I said 50.
As kpa approaches 40 fuel is being trimmed and at 45 even more fuel is being trimmed.
Try turning off all idle advance settings so the timing at idle will be a consistent 16 deg.
David
Last log (2016-01-21_IA_RPM.msl) shows 12.0 to 12.2, even though table is requesting 16.
I think it would be better to change Apply As: from "adder" to "set value"
Set Value = timing is set to the value from the curve
Adder = value from curve adds to existing timing.
Will try tomorrow, weather permitting.
1988 Mustang GT, 59k miles, Orig Owner
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47
Re: Oscillating Idle
You have 100% gain in your EGO correction PID settings. That will oscillate like crazy.
Turn off EGO correction to verify that its causing the problem.
Then turn it back on and try something like.
P=30
I=40
D=30
Also your VE table is not tuned at all. Use autotune to map out a table for you.
Turn off EGO correction to verify that its causing the problem.
Then turn it back on and try something like.
P=30
I=40
D=30
Also your VE table is not tuned at all. Use autotune to map out a table for you.
Re: Oscillating Idle
lagos wrote:...Also your VE table is not tuned at all. Use autotune to map out a table for you.
You must have missed this.krisr wrote:Looks like he's using maf with ve table to trim it.
Looks like he's using maf with ve table to trim it.
1988 Mustang GT, 59k miles, Orig Owner
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47
ProCharger 600B I/C, 12psi, FRP Hdrs, Flwmstr F2, 3G Alt, Contour Fan & DCC, 3.55's, Prog Sprg, Subfms, UCA, LCA, FCA, Tokico 5's, Bridgestone RE-71R 245/40R17, Crane HI-6, Kirban FPR, MS2, DIYPNPF60, Spartan 2, C&L76mm blo-thru MAF, 47lb FRP-LU47