Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
Moderators: jsmcortina, muythaibxr
-
- Helpful MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 49
- Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
The company actually makes a transparent cap! http://www.topstreetperformance.com/ign ... -1880.html
"Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
-
- Helpful MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 49
- Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
I got my clear cap in and put it on. It was well worth the money. I phased the rotor and then put a light on it. The rotor is fluttering back and forth at 1500rpm and above. It is Rock solid at idle. I guess I need a cam and distributor gear.billr wrote:You really can't, if you want to be certain. Buy another cap, the usefulness is much greater than the cost.
You can quickly check three things with that cap: that the rotor is pointing exactly where you want it, that the rotor is not fluttering back-and-forth relative to the crank position, and that the rotor isn't changing its nominal (mean, median, average... define that as you want) position across the rev range.
"Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
-
- Super MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 6828
- Joined: Sun May 15, 2011 11:41 am
- Location: Walnut Creek, Calif. USA
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
Does the cam gear also drive an oil pump? If so, is the driven gear on the dizzy shaft or on the oil pump? When the driven gear is on the dizzy, I wouldn't expect any amount of wear to effect the spark scatter much. The load from the pump keeps the gear (on the dizzy) tight against the cam gear; all backlash is taken out. Now, if the driven gear is on the pump, then the dizzy can flop around as much as the slots/tangs between dizzy and pump allow. New gears there aren't going to help any. Are you sure your vacuum and centrifugal advances (if any) are locked solid?
-
- Helpful MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 49
- Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
The cam gear does drive the oil pump through the cam gear. I have been very busy this week. I hope to have time to double check that the distributor is locked and that there is no play or moment in the shaft/connection between the rotor and the dizzy gear.
"Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
-
- Helpful MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 49
- Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
I double checked the dizzy to be sure it was "locked out" and it is secure. See the self tapping screw in place.
I put a timing light on it again and indeed the rotor is fluttering. I am not sure what else it could be besides the slop in the gears? But as you say the oil pump should take that out. But at these higher rpm it is certainly fluttering. I am so close to driving this thing.....
I put a timing light on it again and indeed the rotor is fluttering. I am not sure what else it could be besides the slop in the gears? But as you say the oil pump should take that out. But at these higher rpm it is certainly fluttering. I am so close to driving this thing.....
"Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."
-
- Super MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 6828
- Joined: Sun May 15, 2011 11:41 am
- Location: Walnut Creek, Calif. USA
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
That does not look "locked" to me! the top-most plate, with the two inner pins for the springs, is part of the dizzy shaft, correct? Will the rest of that stuff rotate any relative to that dizzy shaft?
-
- Helpful MS/Extra'er
- Posts: 49
- Joined: Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: Arkansas
Re: Misfire especially notiable above 1500 rpm
No none of it will rotate. I took the top piece off you referred to, to show that is indeed locked. I also took the advice of a friend and added a selftappin screw opposite the other I had put in to lock the dizzy. His theory was that the screw was throwing off the balance of the rotor bug and that the slop in the cam and dizzy gear was rearing its ugly head because of it.
Problem solved! The misfire is gone. Thanks bill for your help. I was almost ready to tear the front of the engine apart to replace cam and dizzy gear. Glad I did not now and thanks to you for pointing out the oil pump buffering the slop. And thanks to my friend Lee for his twin screw idea.
Problem solved! The misfire is gone. Thanks bill for your help. I was almost ready to tear the front of the engine apart to replace cam and dizzy gear. Glad I did not now and thanks to you for pointing out the oil pump buffering the slop. And thanks to my friend Lee for his twin screw idea.
"Its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it."