4AGE Coil Over Pack (COP) Conversion Settings

[dontz125]

Thanks. Can we get the current .msq posted up? The last one I saw was set for Basic Trigger ...

[aukword1]

one moment my friend...

[aukword1]

here you go.

[dontz125]

Can we get the current .msq posted up?

(The TS tune file; you posted a .msl log file. )

[aukword1]

sorry here you go.

[dontz125]

You've got it set for 'Wasted COP'; it should be set to 'Wasted Spark.' It should't be a deal breaker, but it isn't right and might be confusing things.

[aukword1]

Ive tried both settings and still no rpm signal..i think the ecu isnt reading the distributor as a cam signal.

[dontz125]

Do you have the correct sensor wired to the right input? That is, is the 4-tooth wheel hooked up to VR1? If it's hooked up to VR2, it's not going to work.

[aukword1]

How do I know which is VR1 and VR2?

[dontz125]

It should be labeled.

[aukword1]

well looks like you are right and my distributor wont work. I will try to find an EDIS 4 setup. I went to the junk yard today but couldn't find any. I found a few ford taurus's but couldn't find the EDIS 4 module as directed in the manual. I saw that they had a VR sensor and a toothed wheel though. I will try another bone yard next week.

[CRSTune]

well looks like you are right and my distributor wont work. I will try to find an EDIS 4 setup. I went to the junk yard today but couldn't find any. I found a few ford taurus's but couldn't find the EDIS 4 module as directed in the manual. I saw that they had a VR sensor and a toothed wheel though. I will try another bone yard next week.

Use the later model 20V distributor. They're known to work well. Granted, a crank mounted trigger wheel is superior but the 20V CAS is much simpler to install and configure.

[aukword1]

do you happen to know if the 20v will fit in the 16v? or if autozone/o'reily's would sell it?

[CRSTune]

I had to double check but it looks like it's a 20V only fitment. Sorry for the misinformation.

[aukword1]

No worries, I went to the junkyard today and got an EDIS4. I had to get the VR sensor off an EDIS6 but it looks like it should work. Will probably try to install it next weekend.

[suberimakuri]

The JDM 16V distributors have 24/2 wheel. If you get later model smallport 4age engines then these may also have this distributor.
However it sounds like you don't have it wired correctly (VR1 +- VR2) and if appropriate the relevant board jumpering.
If it was, then we would see the 4/1 teeth in the tooth logger.

Troubleshooting VR setups is a real pita and as this is all new for you (not a bad thing! welcome! ) I agree that EDIS is probably an easier way to go.
Keep at it, won't be long.

[dontz125]

Ummm ... Point of order? If the OP is planning to install and run an EDIS module, then he MUST have (or is willing to install) a 36-1 crank wheel. If there is (or can be) a 36-1 crank wheel, why the dancing around with a 4/1 dizzy?

[suberimakuri]

Personally I like the 24/2 dizzy's, but whatever. Clean installation, no custom stuff... but found MS3X best. MS2 was okay with LM1815 circuits.

Looks like can get a trigger wheel for EDIS here:
https://technotoytuning.com/toyota/16v4 ... gger-wheel
Looks like need to use their crank pulley as well.
No mention of a trigger mount.

[aukword1]

Yeah that's where I was gonna order the trigger wheel from, I wanted to do the 4/1 dizzy because I already had it. I'd prefer the 24/2 dizzy but it seems hard to find right now. I will keep trying the 4/1 dizzy until the trigger wheel and crank pulley come in though. I haven't given up yet and made some sort of breakthrough last night with the rpm signal. At least if I can't get the 4/1 to work then I have a backup EDIS system to try. Will keep you guys updated.

[aukword1]

Update*

I almost got the car started on a wasted cop setting(it had a small ignite in the cylinders) with my igniter still hooked up (but unplugged from the distributor) to send the rpm signal to the ECU. I believe my tooth #1 degree is off and that is why it didn't fully start. I will print out a degree wheel to attach to the crank and degree the distributor teeth according to the megasquirt manual. I will update with my results. Thank you all for your help!