Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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beans
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Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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Hello all, I have a 92 Plymouth Laser that I just recently installed MS3pro on. I have been loving it so far but still trying to learn the new software. A little about the car: 4g63 forged internals, 10.5:1 wiseco HDs, half filled block kiggly girdle, felpro permatorque head gasket with L19s, freshly surfaced block and head, 60mm turbo, and some spray to get on the converter. I have been getting help on the tune from some very knowledgeable tuners that are very familiar with MS. The car was tuned on the dyno and I have made a few small test hits on the street but first pass at the track the head gasket let go after shifting to third. The last couple years I have been fighting head gaskets and cant seem to keep one in place. The last couple have ended in destroying the head. Im looking for any advise on tune and parts to help from keeping this happening again. If you have any questions let me know I will post a couple logs.
Thank you in advance,
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Re: Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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Need the tune file that corresponds with those logs.
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Re: Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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Less timing, more octane, or if you're REALLY pushing things, a dry deck build.
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Re: Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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Matt Cramer wrote:Less timing, more octane, or if you're REALLY pushing things, a dry deck build.
Less timing everywhere? Or less at peak torque? The car is on e85. I wish I could go with a full fill on the block but the car is still a street car and plan on doing a few events like rocky mountain race week.
elutionsdesign wrote:Need the tune file that corresponds with those logs.

Sorry about that I will post it up when I get home.
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I have never tuned E85 so not sure about afr numbers.

What I do find odd is the afr at idle is richer than under full boost.

Also AE needs tuning, throttle tip ins are going very lean.

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Re: Keep blowing head gaskets 4g63 ms3pro

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Here is the current tune that is in the car.
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It already doesn't seem like much timing for an E85 tune. Two things do stand out to me in the logs, first your actual timing isn't always matching your commanded timing from the table and it's dropping to 0 quite often at the lower (200 KPa) boost levels, I'd focus on sorting that out to make absolutely certain the crank pulley timing is where it's supposed to be for the tune. Second your battery voltage is dropping at max boost, is that something you're doing deliberately?
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