Switched to MSnS-E and now it won't start
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Switched to MSnS-E and now it won't start
I originally had the MS1 and a decent VE table for normal driving. I decided to upgrade to get a larger VE table and extra goodies when I get down the road. Now that I've switched over, the car won't start nor will it attempts.
I'm getting a cranking RPM of 250 - 300 and in the "More cranking stuff" menu, I've set my cranking RPM to 400. I also tried 450. I went through and changed everything to how it was on the MS1 (constants, etc) and it just won't even try to fire.
If it helps, here is my MSQ file. I'm using the 029q2 code.
http://www.plastikhosting.net/uploads/t ... -06_01.msq
I'm getting a cranking RPM of 250 - 300 and in the "More cranking stuff" menu, I've set my cranking RPM to 400. I also tried 450. I went through and changed everything to how it was on the MS1 (constants, etc) and it just won't even try to fire.
If it helps, here is my MSQ file. I'm using the 029q2 code.
http://www.plastikhosting.net/uploads/t ... -06_01.msq
1997 Turbo Saturn
MS3 v0.22
TunerStudio v[insert_current_version_here]
MS3 v0.22
TunerStudio v[insert_current_version_here]
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When I loaded your .msq, MT reported a bunch of errors in audit.log. Mostly pressure units inconsistencies. That could be due to my .ini file setup though.
From a quick glance at your settings, a couple items popped up:
Are you running the early MPX4115 map sensor? That unit was only used on a few of the early MS boxes. The default today is teh 250kPa unit.
Your cranking pulse widths all show as 0.1ms, which is likely the cause of your no-start situation. Go into the cranking page and set up the cranking pulse width table using the cranking values you had from your earlier setup.
Hope that helps,
Roger.
From a quick glance at your settings, a couple items popped up:
Are you running the early MPX4115 map sensor? That unit was only used on a few of the early MS boxes. The default today is teh 250kPa unit.
Your cranking pulse widths all show as 0.1ms, which is likely the cause of your no-start situation. Go into the cranking page and set up the cranking pulse width table using the cranking values you had from your earlier setup.
Hope that helps,
Roger.
1979 Mazda RX-7, running MSnSExtra hi-res 09c for fuel and spark control on a turbocharged, intercooled, and (of course!) injected 13B rotary.
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I'll try the 250kPa sensor. I'm using the v3.0 board so it should be the 250kPa. I missed that. As far as the prining pulses, on the MS1 original code, I didn't set any priming pulse simply because I was getting a tach reading and it was starting up just fine.
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I mean, I found the warning, but I don't know what to look for and what exactly to change.
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C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Open
WARNING(03): Value from option list "HCutLCType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "HCutType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "OvrBCutType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "freqDiv" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "crankpwip" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "pwmidlewhen" = "INVALID" not found.
Warning Details
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WARNING(03) means that the value expressed in the file for the
constant was not found one of the options listed in the
current configuration. The constant was not altered, so
you probably want to look more closely at this one and
see what caused the mismatch.
C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Close
C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Open
WARNING(03): Value from option list "HCutLCType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "HCutType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "OvrBCutType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "freqDiv" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "crankpwip" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "pwmidlewhen" = "INVALID" not found.
Warning Details
---------------
WARNING(03) means that the value expressed in the file for the
constant was not found one of the options listed in the
current configuration. The constant was not altered, so
you probably want to look more closely at this one and
see what caused the mismatch.
C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Close
C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Open
WARNING(03): Value from option list "HCutLCType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "OvrBCutType" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "freqDiv" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "crankpwip" = "INVALID" not found.
WARNING(03): Value from option list "pwmidlewhen" = "INVALID" not found.
Warning Details
---------------
WARNING(03) means that the value expressed in the file for the
constant was not found one of the options listed in the
current configuration. The constant was not altered, so
you probably want to look more closely at this one and
see what caused the mismatch.
C:\Program Files\MegaSquirt\car1\tristanlee85-MSnSE_fuel-only_v029q2_7-16-06.msq:Close
1997 Turbo Saturn
MS3 v0.22
TunerStudio v[insert_current_version_here]
MS3 v0.22
TunerStudio v[insert_current_version_here]
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Glad you are making progress. It's odd that you were able to get the engine started with 0.1ms cranking pw. Maybe there's enough residual fuel in the inlet manifold, or you have a massive priming pulse to compensate? In any case, on with the tuning! If you do need to switch back to the standard V3.0 code, that can be done at any time. Instructions are at megasquirt.info. I use EasyTherm, but I'm biased!
Roger.
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Note that it is the cranking pulsewidth you need to tune for startup and not the priming pulse.
Having all 0.1 is incorrect.
James
Having all 0.1 is incorrect.
James
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