Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

A general forum and a place for initial or prospective users. See Manuals/Documentation
Click here to enter
Contact a Forum Administrator
If unsure where to post, post in this sub-forum.

Moderators: jsmcortina, muythaibxr

Post Reply
efims
Helpful MS/Extra'er
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 am

Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by efims »

jsmcortina
Site Admin
Posts: 39619
Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 1:34 am
Location: Birmingham, UK
Contact:

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by jsmcortina »

Do you have any wiring diagrams that show the OEM install of that coil? I'm not familiar with it.

James
I can repair or upgrade Megasquirts in UK. http://www.jamesmurrayengineering.co.uk

My Success story: http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 04&t=34277
MSEXTRA documentation at: http://www.msextra.com/doc/index.html
New users, please read the "Forum Help Page".
efims
Helpful MS/Extra'er
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 am

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by efims »

I do not have the original wiring...however, I know that it is controlled directly from the Original ECU.

By the way, what could be the negative side effect to have a Pull-up on a BIP373(to be used as a coil ignitor)?

Thanks
jsmcortina
Site Admin
Posts: 39619
Joined: Mon May 03, 2004 1:34 am
Location: Birmingham, UK
Contact:

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by jsmcortina »

efims wrote:By the way, what could be the negative side effect to have a Pull-up on a BIP373(to be used as a coil ignitor)?

Thanks
If the coil is a high-current type, you will make the spark weaker.

You really need to find the coil pinout (and pin names) before you try to wire it up.

James
I can repair or upgrade Megasquirts in UK. http://www.jamesmurrayengineering.co.uk

My Success story: http://www.msextra.com/forums/viewtopic ... 04&t=34277
MSEXTRA documentation at: http://www.msextra.com/doc/index.html
New users, please read the "Forum Help Page".
efims
Helpful MS/Extra'er
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 am

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by efims »

You really need to find the coil pinout (and pin names) before you try to wire it up.

How can I do this??

There is nothing written on the coil pins(terminals)

High Current Coil...how can I identify this?

I measured the resistance of the coil

7.5K ohm secondary coil

0.6 Ohm Primary coil
dontz125
Super MS/Extra'er
Posts: 4224
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 7:14 pm
Location: York, ON
Contact:

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by dontz125 »

Well - you've identified the pins. The 0.6 Ohm pins are the primary side; one pin receives switched & fused +12v from the fuel pump relay, the other is grounded through the BIP373. The other pins are your secondaries, going to the spark plugs.
Temporarily shut down - back soon!
QuadraMAP Sensor Module -- PWM-to-Stepper Controller -- Dual Coil Driver
Coming soon: OctoMAP Sensor Module
TTR Ignition Systems
efims
Helpful MS/Extra'er
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 am

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by efims »

Thanks..

But still not sure if I need a Pullup Resistor for the BIP373
dontz125
Super MS/Extra'er
Posts: 4224
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 7:14 pm
Location: York, ON
Contact:

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by dontz125 »

For high current coils, you do NOT use a pull-up resistor. The only time you use a pull-up is with a logic coil, and then the resistor is between the BIP and the coil's trigger pin.
Temporarily shut down - back soon!
QuadraMAP Sensor Module -- PWM-to-Stepper Controller -- Dual Coil Driver
Coming soon: OctoMAP Sensor Module
TTR Ignition Systems
efims
Helpful MS/Extra'er
Posts: 130
Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:59 am

Re: Does BIP373 need Pullup to run a Bosch Coil?

Post by efims »

"then the resistor is between the BIP and the coil's trigger pin"...this is the 330R from MS CPU chip to BIP373?
Post Reply