Soup can surge tank?
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Soup can surge tank?
While looking for something that might make a good surge tank, it suddenly occurred to me that I might be able to fashion one out of a soup can. Braze a fitting to the bottom, make a sheet metal lid with the appropriate fittings on top, and braze the lid on. Seems like it would be pretty quick to make, cheap, and safe. Is this a good way to get a surge tank or is there something I'm missing here?
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Matt,
I'd recycle the soup can, and find another more robust source for a tank. Take a wander around the wreckers, and see what you can find. Attached is a pic of my surge tank I fabricated from an old power steering reservoir from some older domestic car. The reservoir already had a mount and some fittings built in, and I just brazed in the extras I needed.
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I'd recycle the soup can, and find another more robust source for a tank. Take a wander around the wreckers, and see what you can find. Attached is a pic of my surge tank I fabricated from an old power steering reservoir from some older domestic car. The reservoir already had a mount and some fittings built in, and I just brazed in the extras I needed.
Roger.
THANKS FOR THE PLUG!!! I was just going to post that link to my site..
I got that idea from 4x4 bronco guys that convert to 5.0L EFI motors..
It will really let about any Carb'd car become EFI friendly. the only other thing is to get a return line to the fuel tank... I have seen people make a fitting into the filler hose to do that...
I have a good 2k miles on mine and not had a problem since I installed it, and I am running a 5.0L SBF.
I got that idea from 4x4 bronco guys that convert to 5.0L EFI motors..
It will really let about any Carb'd car become EFI friendly. the only other thing is to get a return line to the fuel tank... I have seen people make a fitting into the filler hose to do that...
I have a good 2k miles on mine and not had a problem since I installed it, and I am running a 5.0L SBF.
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I was digging stuff out of the boneyard this weekend and saw a nice solution. The mid 80's Jettas have a pump with what looks like two surge tanks: one on each side. They look like they hold around a pint of fuel, perhaps slightly less. It is under the car just in front of the fuel tank. Its a unit around 1.5' x .75' rectangular.
I knew I should have grabbed that unit and brought it home!
I do like the fuel filter idea though also. As long as fuel won't eat away at the filter: but I guess if it is oil safe it should be gas safe...
I knew I should have grabbed that unit and brought it home!
I do like the fuel filter idea though also. As long as fuel won't eat away at the filter: but I guess if it is oil safe it should be gas safe...
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Instead of usinga gas filter, you can get one of the spin-on filters that's meant to go on a gas pump. It's got a lot of capacity and is meant to filter fuel.uberbug wrote: I do like the fuel filter idea though also. As long as fuel won't eat away at the filter: but I guess if it is oil safe it should be gas safe...
That is sweet, Just what I am needing to MS the Cutlass. I am using the universal mounts and probably the same Filter in my set up anyway. Most have 1/2 in pipe fittings. Be aware there are different center thread sizes for the filters. Be sure to match the base with the filter. The parts store will have a WIX book to show these options. For those who are interested in part numbers. There are also different size filters that I have listed. Check the racing button for a good review. The bases are also listed.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
Universal mount 24762 or 24766
Fuel Filter 33281
tranny oil filter 51622
**would not use an oil filter for this purpose. Besides the fuel filter can be had for about $15, may take a day or two for the parts store to pull it in.
http://www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/index.asp
Universal mount 24762 or 24766
Fuel Filter 33281
tranny oil filter 51622
**would not use an oil filter for this purpose. Besides the fuel filter can be had for about $15, may take a day or two for the parts store to pull it in.
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Yep, they work nicely till they break!uberbug wrote:The mid 80's Jettas have a pump with what looks like two surge tanks: one on each side. They look like they hold around a pint of fuel, perhaps slightly less.
Naw, ya did yoursef a favor NOT getting it! I just had one spontaniously explode in the basement. It was just SITTING there and for unknown reasons decided to pop. I had gas everywhere... I am not sure WHY somebody put it down there, and this was a dangerous situation to find. Took three days to get the smell out of the house. These things will eventually leak and they are not cheap to replace when you ask for a new one. And I have been told you can't replace just the fuel pump...I knew I should have grabbed that unit and brought it home!
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I finished up a surge tank for my next fuel injected project. It's made from a mid 80's Toyota power steering reservoir. The reservoir had to be welded together, since the top of it was originally sealed with a rubber gasket. Inside there is a fine brass screen, the fuel to the high pressure pump is drawn from below the screen, kind of a pre-filter. The return to the fuel tank has a restriction in it to place some back pressure on the low pressure pump.
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That looks very nice! Should work pretty good.
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