UK - avoid "LD Performance"

Post by **jsmcortina** » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:25 am

This seller also under the name "megasquirt_performance" is selling a counterfeit ECU claiming to be an MS2.

You can see a picture of the nasty thing on the clones page: http://www.msextra.com/doc/clones/index.html

James

Post by **jsmcortina** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:32 pm

Here's an example of their counterfeit. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Megasquirt-MS ... 3a9d6d2b5d

I am about to report it to Ebay. Maybe some others would too?

James

slow_hemi6 · Post by **slow_hemi6** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:49 pm

That guy was pushing that thing last year and I used to keep an eye out and report him. I always put counterfeit and copyright infringement in the report reason.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:20 pm

If you look at his feedback he's sold at least 13 of the things.

slow_hemi6 · Post by **slow_hemi6** » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:26 pm

He's still trying. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251750824189 Too dumb to realise "Includes a MS2 ECU" Means it's got one of these included

It obviously does not. Reported again.

aarc240 · Post by **aarc240** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:18 am

As annoying as he may be, I suspect that reporting him as "counterfeit and copyright infringement" won't get anywhere.
A counterfeit by definition is a fake replica of the real thing which his board clearly isn't (it hasn't even got the same dodgy DB37 connectors!).
As for copyright, he's skirting around the law but I have not yet seen anywhere that MS2 is a registered tradmark.
MegaSquirt certainly is and the cunning bastard has stated that it "is not a Megasquirt MS2 ECU."
Using the term "MS2 ECU" in the second para doesn't mean that it is a "MegaSquirt-II daughterboard" so he slips away there too.
No firmware ? The bastard can get away with that, claiming that it is up to the end user to write his/her own or whatever else they wish to do.

Nasty rip-off which he is pretty smart with.
Please don't support the dodgy a*****e !!!

john.p.clegg · Post by **john.p.clegg** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:35 am

He's near you James,why don't you go round and sort him out????

John ;|

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:39 am

Absolutely nothing wrong with D series connectors - they're used extensively in broadcast etc. They are cheap to buy because they're made in such vast quantities. Of course like any connector, exceed the rated current and you'll be in trouble.

aarc240 · Post by **aarc240** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:18 am

Unfortunately there seems to be some resistance in certain circles to adjusting matters by introducing kneecaps to baseball bats.
Pity 'bout that!

Been using DB's for about 35 years in the computer industry (retired CSE), good there too.
Still using them in one car, just a bit flaky in humid climates.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:13 am

A 'standard' MS may have problems too if used in very high humidity etc. The case on it isn't sealed. Other versions are available for arduous use - which include a sealed connector.

My MS2 has been just fine inside my car in the UK for many a year - even when the windows are streaming with condensation. Which happens a lot this time of the year.

john.p.clegg · Post by **john.p.clegg** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 5:17 am

Oh to be young and single again...

John

mickeymarrows · Post by **mickeymarrows** » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:34 am

If we had a supplier like DIY Auto Tune here in the UK these dodgy sellers wouldn't be able to get a foothold..

In this modern world a lot of people think if you can't find it on ebay or a website that offers next day delivery then its either not available or too much hassle

oscarmax · Post by **oscarmax** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:25 am

jsmcortina wrote:This seller also under the name "megasquirt_performance" is selling a counterfeit ECU claiming to be an MS2.

You can see a picture of the nasty thing on the clones page: http://www.msextra.com/doc/clones/index.html

James

Bad new he is still operating and I have brought one, I will email him now

oscarmax · Post by **oscarmax** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 6:42 am

oscarmax wrote:
jsmcortina wrote:This seller also under the name "megasquirt_performance" is selling a counterfeit ECU claiming to be an MS2.

You can see a picture of the nasty thing on the clones page: http://www.msextra.com/doc/clones/index.html

James
Bad new he is still operating and I have brought one, I will email him now

I have had a little word with megasquirt_performance, reporting my finds, thanks to you guys, they are cancelling the order and refunding my money. They claim 'I don't use megasquirt firmware, I use my own, I said I use the same hardware as the original MS'.

I have made it quite clear Tuner studio's will not allow access to their software.

Looks like I will be buying a microsquirt from Trigger wheels.

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:22 am

Do you really need the small size of the MicroSquirt? If not, I'd go for a 'normal' MS.

oscarmax · Post by **oscarmax** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:54 am

Hi,

I need something simple, my setup is reasonably simple, turbocharger, Honda throttle bodies injection, I already have the EDIS4, 3bar map sensor etc, the microsquirt comes preloaded with a legal base map and 3/8ft loom. Plus I am on a limit budget.

kjones6039 · Post by **kjones6039** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:31 am

oscarmax wrote:they are cancelling the order and refunding my money.

Ya, think?

If it was me, I certainly would not be holding my breath!!

Ken

DaveEFI · Post by **DaveEFI** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:54 am

oscarmax wrote:Hi,

I need something simple, my setup is reasonably simple, turbocharger, Honda throttle bodies injection, I already have the EDIS4, 3bar map sensor etc, the microsquirt comes preloaded with a legal base map and 3/8ft loom. Plus I am on a limit budget.

All MS have a base map which will get you started.

I'd caution against using one said to be a base map for your engine unless it comes from one which is identical in every way. Because it infers you don't need to check the basic settings. Different if you are buying a true plug and play unit for a standard engine, etc.

(I'm not implying anything against Trigger Wheels - they are a decent company I've used and will use again. It's just a general comment about maps said to be good for any engine which isn't bog standard)

Post by **jsmcortina** » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:19 pm

The Microsquirt is a sound compact ECU. Yes, it is not designed to be customised, but for most customers that is a benefit.
It is also usually cheaper and better featured than an assembled Megasquirt-2

James

oscarmax · Post by **oscarmax** » Thu Oct 29, 2015 12:58 am

I am new to all this a obviously a little green, hence I would not brought the ECU of megasquirt_performance, the seller has now cancelled the transaction through ebay.

Trigger wheels microsquirt come with a base map, when I contacted them they have been incredibly helpful, plus I have brought several parts from them. The setup I am using is going on my turbocharged imp engine in the back of my Clan, I can get a very close map from the imp club from a 930cc turbo/throttle bodies imp.

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