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Mueller
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Ninja ZX-12R t/b's on my Type IV Porsche/VW flat 4 motor

Post by Mueller »

'02/'03 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-12R...rated at 165 horsepower

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I machined off the flange of the manifold, the offset hole is on purpose, it better matches the bore of the t/b and allows a staight shot for the injectors to spray right at the intake valve. I plan on adding a bracket between the t/b and the manifold to give it a little more side loading strength.

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Anyone have the flow numbers for the injectors used on this bike?
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your ihi turbo?

Post by abadassbikerlad »

exupturbo wrote:I'm using GSXR750 inlet rubbers which are not much bigger at the cylinder head end than stock exup. I made some adaptors and fitted them to my original inlet manifolds, then matched to the GSXR rubber.
Dodgy pic of inlets and rubbers in place
Bodies with new fuel rail and Jaguar V8 injectors (345cc min at 3 bar)
Pic showing Bodies in place
Still plenty to do, but I am winning :)
Mark


hi see your going down the route of what i am trying to do possible used gsxr1000 tb's and an IHI turbo just wondering what model of IHI your using? i have a rh5b . thanks

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Re: your ihi turbo?

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abadassbikerlad wrote: hi see your going down the route of what i am trying to do possible used gsxr1000 tb's and an IHI turbo just wondering what model of IHI your using? i have a rh5b . thanks
Hi mate, I'm using RHB52 as recomended in Joe Hailes book on turbo charging motorbikes. The specs he gives for a 1000cc are no good :? spec now is with R20 exhaust housing and bigger compressor wheel. The R15 housing is too small for a 1000cc bike engine and even with the R20 I had to port the waste gate to keep the boost down.
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Using MS1 with v2.2 main board? MSnS for FI only to get the 12x12 table.

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Post by MarkW »

BFG the GSXR 750 Bodies will be fine on the RS2K.

Heard from Dean you're not scrapping the car :) Great News. If you want to pop down anytime and have a look at my 600 Set up your more than welcome or come along with Dean to the next Track Day
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Post by zx1100e »

Make/Model: YAMAHA FJ1300 Year: 2003-2006 (US) 2001 up others
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 42mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 77-87.5-77mm
Overall Length: 95mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 52mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 46mm
Separate casting: YES
Injector Make/Model: Keihin ??
Flow Rate:
Fuel Rail: Alu casted
Other: TB made by mikuni, uses a coolant thermowax type warmup system for high idle, no secondairy throttle. This model has 150 BHP and 99 TQ.

BTW, I really want to know the spacing of the zx12 ITB.
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Post by Skiericski »

Has anyone come up with a source for injector connectors for these bike TBs? I'm using CBR TBs with Keihin injectors, but wasn't able to get the harness parts. Anyone have a source?
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Post by Bow »

Skiericski wrote:Has anyone come up with a source for injector connectors for these bike TBs? I'm using CBR TBs with Keihin injectors, but wasn't able to get the harness parts. Anyone have a source?
Check Ebay.. I see harnesses on there often...

I'm looking for a set of CBR1000XX Blackbird fuel injectors or Honda S2000 injectors...
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Post by greggearhead »

Alfa SPICA throttle bodies. 40mm butterfly diameter. Bore centers about 9cm apart.


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Post by sportage4x4 »

anyone have any info on the 02-03 YZF R1 throttle bodies? i know they are the CV style, but thats about it.
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Post by muythaibxr »

I don't know the exact specs on these, but here are the stock ITBs on a 20 valve 4age (toyota):

On the car, 1994 engine:
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Off the car, from a 1991 engine (throttle linkage and other minor things slightly different):

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Post by sportage4x4 »

Make/Model: R1
Year: 02-03
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 42mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind):
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake): 52mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 48mm
Separate casting: 4 seperate castings
Injector Make/Model: CDH210 mikuni? rated at 240cc/min
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): regulator set to 55psi
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: throttles have CV slides, like bike carbs.
1990 Mazda Miata: GM Gen3 V8 swap, 4.8L, custom cam, 2x GT2860R turbos, MS3 + MS3X.
2003 Kia Rio wagon: Mazda B6T/G25MR swap, Miata CAS, IHI RHF5 @ 2bar, LSx truck coils, P&H board, boost control.
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2.1L Zetec/Busa

Post by leejameshunter »

Heres my silvertop Zetec it has a 2001 big valve blacktop head fully ported, 12.5-1cr, 294 deg cams, Titanium valve retainers, Accrilite 86.5mm pistons, turbo sport steel rods, turbo sports ultralight flywheel, 7 1/4 Ap racing clutch double grey with 3 paddle plate, kent vernias, all alloy drive pulleys.
It is on Busa itbs evenly spaced to 92mm. Ms1extra High-res, Rpm based Accel, Alpha-n, Edis ign.
Starts good hot or cold, very responsive
Iam looking for about 240 bhp.

i also use an FSE boost valve set to 42psi/3bar which gives a flow rate of 255cc/min. At 38psi it gives 250cc/min.

Any body got one like this?
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Post by gravie »

BMW R1150 trottle body with WEBER IDF adapter for VW/Porsche engine

diameter 45 mm
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Post by arnold »

has anyone of you used these TB units in:

- a siamese ports application?

- a forced induction setup (blow through the TB unit)
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Re: Motorcycle, Snow-Mobile & Car Throttle Specs and Pics

Post by nyabinghi »

Marcus wrote: MOTORCYCLE

SUZUKI

Make/Model: GSXR 750
Year: -98, -99
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 46mm
Center-Center (left to right from behind): 80-80-80mm
Overall Length: 91mm
Outside Diameter (intake): 54mm
Outside Diameter (filter): 54mm
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate (45psi/100%): 240cc
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: No sec. throttles.
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I have a question :
What screw i have to ajust on these ITB to balance them with a tool like carbtune : http://www.carbtune.com/
There are screws with little springs beetween the throttle bodies (3 screws in total) for ajusting the throttle angle.
And there are screws inner each body (4 screws) for adjusting a "bypass".
Which of these screws must I ajust for correct balancing ?

Thanks ?

Do someone can post a alpha-N VE/Ign table of a ITB engine here ?
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- Opel Corsa A 2L 16v GSXR750 ITB / MS2 hybrid alpha-n/speed-density
- Opel Corsa A 1.6L 8V / MS2 alpha-n
- Opel Corsa A 1.8L 16V / DIYPNP speed-density
spudmurphy
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Re: Motorcycle, Snow-Mobile & Car Throttle Specs and Pics

Post by spudmurphy »

Hi,

info taken from this thread..

http://www.r6messagenet.com/forums/r6-m ... ctors.html

says that the injectors for the Yamaha R6 '03-'04 have a flow rate of 235cc/min at 284kPa

And I can confirm the impedance is 13.3 Ohms

ttfn,

Spud
All these new words are starting to make me feel a little bit sick.
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Re: Motorcycle, Snow-Mobile & Car Throttle Specs and Pics

Post by PARUS »

HONDA

Make/Model: CBR929
Year: -01
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 41mm
Center-Center:
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: No sec. throttles.

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Re: Motorcycle, Snow-Mobile & Car Throttle Specs and Pics

Post by PARUS »

SUZUKI

GSR400
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Re: Motorcycle, Snow-Mobile & Car Throttle Specs and Pics

Post by PARUS »

Make/Model: CB400 Revo NC42
Year: -08
Number of Tb: 4
Inside Diameter: 31mm
Center-Center: 70-90-70
Overall Length:
Outside Diameter (intake):
Outside Diameter (filter):
Separate casting: Yes
Injector Make/Model: Keihin,
Flow Rate
Fuel Rail Inside Diameter:
Additional Info: No sec. throttles.
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