Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 8:15 am

yes
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 8:41 am

black 89turbo wrote:yes

PM me your email and I'll send you a starter fuel table
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby billr » Fri May 04, 2012 8:56 am

Referring to "Tune1.msq" posted 5/3/2012:

To the right of "BANK 1 Dead time @13.2V(ms)" I see a data-box with ".752" in it.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 9:06 am

billr wrote:Referring to "Tune1.msq" posted 5/3/2012:

To the right of "BANK 1 Dead time @13.2V(ms)" I see a data-box with ".752" in it.


Screen shot?
It deffinetly was set @ 7.0
Need to make sure were all on the same page and looking at the same thing.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 9:19 am

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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 9:28 am

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Sounds like your req fuel is way too small or the problems in VE table made you have to run such a large value

Try .8 and the ve table I sent you.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby billr » Fri May 04, 2012 11:21 am

Here it is, also the .msq Maybe it's a difference in the TS I'm using?

Tune1.msq

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Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 11:29 am

No go. I uploaded the table peter sent, set the dead time to .8. I also tried to up the PWM current all the way to 60 and still nothing. Take the dead time and put 7.0 in fires up without a hesitation. :?
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 11:31 am

black 89turbo wrote:No go. I uploaded the table peter sent, set the dead time to .8. I also tried to up the PWM current all the way to 60 and still nothing. Take the dead time and put 7.0 in fires up without a hesitation. :?

which outputs are you using? MS3X or standard?
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 11:33 am

billr wrote:Here it is, also the .msq Maybe it's a difference in the TS I'm using?


Weird, very weird.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 11:34 am

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black 89turbo wrote:No go. I uploaded the table peter sent, set the dead time to .8. I also tried to up the PWM current all the way to 60 and still nothing. Take the dead time and put 7.0 in fires up without a hesitation. :?

which outputs are you using? MS3X or standard?


Standard/main board. Not getting into the ms3x portion yet. lol rookie at ms :oops:
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 11:45 am

black 89turbo wrote:
Peter Florance wrote:
black 89turbo wrote:No go. I uploaded the table peter sent, set the dead time to .8. I also tried to up the PWM current all the way to 60 and still nothing. Take the dead time and put 7.0 in fires up without a hesitation. :?

which outputs are you using? MS3X or standard?


Standard/main board. Not getting into the ms3x portion yet. lol rookie at ms :oops:

edit: I wonder if these are really high z injectors or there are ballast resistors installed.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 11:52 am

1g DSM 450cc Blue tops #B450l

Non-Turbo 1.8L - N210H Injectors-casting #INP-057 (210cc High Impedance)
Non-Turbo 4G63 - N240H Injectors-casting #INP-059 (240cc High Impedance)
Turbo 4G63 A/T - B390L Injectors-casting #INP-008 (390cc Low Impedance)
Turbo 4G63 M/T - B450L Injectors-casting #INP-009 (450cc Low Impedance)
2G Turbo BlackTops -MDL450 casting #IPN-081 (450cc Low Impedance)
2.4 - MDH275-casting #IPN-065 (275cc High Impedance)
JDM motors that came with the B16G had yellow 510cc injectors
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby billr » Fri May 04, 2012 12:08 pm

Make it simple for me, forget about the injectors P/Ns and top colors; how many ohms of resistance on one?
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 12:11 pm

billr wrote:Make it simple for me, forget about the injectors P/Ns and top colors; how many ohms of resistance on one?


They ALL have 2.8ish give or take .1. I ohm them all out.
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm

black 89turbo wrote:
billr wrote:Make it simple for me, forget about the injectors P/Ns and top colors; how many ohms of resistance on one?


They ALL have 2.8ish give or take .1. I ohm them all out.

My 4G63 has ballast resistors
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 12:20 pm

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black 89turbo wrote:
billr wrote:Make it simple for me, forget about the injectors P/Ns and top colors; how many ohms of resistance on one?


They ALL have 2.8ish give or take .1. I ohm them all out.

My 4G63 has ballast resistors


Oem haress, ecu & resistor box?
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 12:24 pm

black 89turbo wrote:
Oem haress, ecu & resistor box?

OEM harness, resistors and MS
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby black 89turbo » Fri May 04, 2012 12:31 pm

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black 89turbo wrote:
Oem haress, ecu & resistor box?

OEM harness, resistors and MS


Hmm, maybe put a resistor box in? I never used a resistor box using these injectors on AEM, Microwreck or helltech all 4 cars ran for year/years before either upgradding injectors ect. You have the same injectors correct? Your running MS2? Do you have a wiring diagram of the resistor pack put into play?
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Re: Ign signal, tps, nightmare. Base map would be great!

Postby Peter Florance » Fri May 04, 2012 12:37 pm

black 89turbo wrote:
Peter Florance wrote:
black 89turbo wrote:
Oem haress, ecu & resistor box?

OEM harness, resistors and MS


Hmm, maybe put a resistor box in? I never used a resistor box using these injectors on AEM, Microwreck or helltech all 4 cars ran for year/years before either upgradding injectors ect. You have the same injectors correct? Your running MS2? Do you have a wiring diagram of the resistor pack put into play?

No you don't need one; my question is whether the ballast resistors are still in your harness.

My old tech left this MS1 car behind after he hurt the motor tuning it and moved back to Ohio. Signed it over to me when the city was going to tow it.

Just got pistons put in it so don't know much more about it.

Eagle Talon which has ballast resistors and low z injectors
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