Shift Light
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Shift Light
How would I make an indicator on my dash to show me a shift light without using a wired output? Does TS have this capability?
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
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Re: Shift Light
Add an indicator that goes on when above your shift point.
If you have TS Ultra, you can use the Channel Editor to add an OutputChannel to point the indicator at.
Use a simple expression that is only true when above your RPM, say you want a shift light at 6500 RPM, the expression would be:
rpm > 6500
If you have TS Ultra, you can use the Channel Editor to add an OutputChannel to point the indicator at.
Use a simple expression that is only true when above your RPM, say you want a shift light at 6500 RPM, the expression would be:
rpm > 6500
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Re: Shift Light
As another thought could always run Shadow dash and set the RPM gauge limits for the shift points. In fact can use any gauge in this way as gauge will turn another colour based on the limits set (yellow & red). I use my Android head unit for this function so I do not have to keep watching while on the track.
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Re: Shift Light
It would be nice to internally use the output of the shift light to change the background color on a gauge. This way there is no need to actually wire a shift light. I can't believe that this was overlooked as it seems quite simple to do in the code.
maybe this could be a future add-on?
maybe this could be a future add-on?
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Re: Shift Light
Did you not read above?vw_chuck wrote:It would be nice to internally use the output of the shift light to change the background color on a gauge. This way there is no need to actually wire a shift light. I can't believe that this was overlooked as it seems quite simple to do in the code.
maybe this could be a future add-on?
That are many ways to do that currently.
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Re: Shift Light
Phil. Not with different rev limits for each gear like the shift light outputs.
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Re: Shift Light
Why not?
If the ECU knows the gear you are in, that is just part of the expression for the OutputChannel.
It seems it would be worth building the ini work into TS so end users can just set the values in a dialog. I know creating new channels and what not can get confusing.
If the ECU knows the gear you are in, that is just part of the expression for the OutputChannel.
It seems it would be worth building the ini work into TS so end users can just set the values in a dialog. I know creating new channels and what not can get confusing.
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Re: Shift Light
So I can only accomplish this using the Ultra?
I tried to find what you are talking about in my tuner studio and could not. Unless I am looking in the wrong spot?
I tried to find what you are talking about in my tuner studio and could not. Unless I am looking in the wrong spot?
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Re: Shift Light
Without Ultra, you can create a custom ini.
Add a new OutputChannel:
Or with the beta, there is a new function that cleans this up a bit:
Add a new OutputChannel:
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[OutputChannels]
shiftLightOn = { gear == 1 && rpm > [Your1stGearShiftPoint] ? 1 : gear == 2 && rpm > [Your2ndGearShiftPoint] ? 1 : gear == 3 && rpm > [Your3rdGearShiftPoint] ? 1 : 0 }
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[OutputChannels]
shiftLightOn = { selectExpression( gear, 0, rpm > [Your1stGearShiftPoint] , rpm > [Your2ndGearShiftPoint], rpm > [Your3rdGearShiftPoint] ) }
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Re: Shift Light
Thanks for the help Phil.
Do you think you will add an indicator that is simply linked to the shift light output? In the shift light calibration just put a drop down on output that says "virtual" so that you can just use the virtual indicator on the dash with no hardwire? Then the shift points can be calibrated under the shift light tab instead of having to add another calibration somewhere else and having two calibrations to remember to change?
Do you think you will add an indicator that is simply linked to the shift light output? In the shift light calibration just put a drop down on output that says "virtual" so that you can just use the virtual indicator on the dash with no hardwire? Then the shift points can be calibrated under the shift light tab instead of having to add another calibration somewhere else and having two calibrations to remember to change?
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Re: Shift Light
That is another way you can do it now.vw_chuck wrote:Thanks for the help Phil.
Do you think you will add an indicator that is simply linked to the shift light output?
Use the pin state for what ever pin you set it to use. The only down side is you will need to have some pin assigned, but if you have a free pin..
For example, set the MS3 shift light to use PK7.
Then you can assign an indicator to the existing OutputChannel portk7.
The indicator will then be on when pin PK7 is activated.
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Re: Shift Light
Ah nice. I will give it a try.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Re: Shift Light
Phil,
I assigned portK1 to the shift light and then added an indicator to my dash for PK1. It does not work?
Doesn't PK1 become shift light in the code so the indicator will not work? I also tried this with Nitrous 2 but it also does not work? Not sure what I am doing wrong.
I also tried to make an indicator with the add new channel but that does not make an indicator just a gauge and there is no documentation on how to make an indicator.
Not quite sure why this is so difficult to make a lousey On/Off indicator on the dash for a shift light???
Can you possibly just make a predefined indicator for shift light in the next build?
I assigned portK1 to the shift light and then added an indicator to my dash for PK1. It does not work?
Doesn't PK1 become shift light in the code so the indicator will not work? I also tried this with Nitrous 2 but it also does not work? Not sure what I am doing wrong.
I also tried to make an indicator with the add new channel but that does not make an indicator just a gauge and there is no documentation on how to make an indicator.
Not quite sure why this is so difficult to make a lousey On/Off indicator on the dash for a shift light???
Can you possibly just make a predefined indicator for shift light in the next build?
Re: Shift Light
Here is my MSQ if that helps
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Re: Shift Light
I just tried it with port PK7, then used the OutputChannel portk7.
Seems to work fine.
I am using 1.5 firmware. I don't see the shift light feature in your 1.2 firmware. Does it have it?
Where are you setting your shift points?
This might be the trouble.
It wouldn't take much to make you a custom.ini for TS.
Seems to work fine.
I am using 1.5 firmware. I don't see the shift light feature in your 1.2 firmware. Does it have it?
Where are you setting your shift points?
This might be the trouble.
It wouldn't take much to make you a custom.ini for TS.
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Re: Shift Light
Ah the firmware. Hmmm. I will try updating to the latest firmware and give this another go. As for shift points I was just trying to get it to work at one RPM first before I added the complexity of per gear as I am in process of adding my wheel speed sensor.
Thanks for helping this dumb guy out.
Thanks for helping this dumb guy out.
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Re: Shift Light
Here is a custom.ini I put together that will give you the TS shift light per gear.
You will need gear detection set up on your MS3
You will need to use the beta TS. It has a new function selectExpression(...). it is not required but much cleaner to use than a ton of nested ternary expressions.
Once you drop this in the folder:
[YourTSProject]/projectCfg/
Then reload your project. You will have a new main button called "Chucks Stuff"
Under there are the settings for the shift light.
Then right click on an indicator an under Predefined indicators, you will see a "On: Shift - Off: Hammer" indicator..
Select that and should be good to go.
You will need gear detection set up on your MS3
You will need to use the beta TS. It has a new function selectExpression(...). it is not required but much cleaner to use than a ton of nested ternary expressions.
Once you drop this in the folder:
[YourTSProject]/projectCfg/
Then reload your project. You will have a new main button called "Chucks Stuff"
Under there are the settings for the shift light.
Then right click on an indicator an under Predefined indicators, you will see a "On: Shift - Off: Hammer" indicator..
Select that and should be good to go.
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Re: Shift Light
Phil thanks alot for taking time to do this. I will drop it in and see how it works.