[Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
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[Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Is it possible to add an new feature that allows closed loop spark-cut during sequential shift cut?
Geartronics has a standalone gcu that can control this feature and it works great. It looks on the gear detection -> input port Voltage to ensure spark/fuel only comes back when the gear is correctly "in".
This would be great!
Geartronics has a standalone gcu that can control this feature and it works great. It looks on the gear detection -> input port Voltage to ensure spark/fuel only comes back when the gear is correctly "in".
This would be great!
Last edited by el-hardo on Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:42 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Possible Feature: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
it would be nice to have closed loop gear control.
However, even if it is considered, it will not be a quick adoption. at least not to do it correctly.
So if you are looking at it in the near future, best to use the Geartronics easy shift.
However, even if it is considered, it will not be a quick adoption. at least not to do it correctly.
So if you are looking at it in the near future, best to use the Geartronics easy shift.
Re: Possible Feature: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Why should the adoption be such a problem?
The shift cut sensor (my Sadev gearbox has one in stock) cuts the spark (to be ony the safe side e.g. for 40ms) and it will be returned if the gear is correctly engaged which is secured by a mV window for each gear. Voila.
This is a lot better then the actual time based shift cut option and geartronics makes it like this.
The shift cut sensor (my Sadev gearbox has one in stock) cuts the spark (to be ony the safe side e.g. for 40ms) and it will be returned if the gear is correctly engaged which is secured by a mV window for each gear. Voila.
This is a lot better then the actual time based shift cut option and geartronics makes it like this.
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Re: Possible Feature: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Helloo
Please fix topic name to [Feature Request]
Please fix topic name to [Feature Request]
Re: Feature Request: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Done
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
I am still VERY interested in this feature.
So the only things that have to be changed on the existing code is:
1. Small mV-window table for each gear where the gear is fully engaged.
#0 = 0,54-0,58mV
#1 = 0,88-0,93 mV
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2. A "failsafe" field for minimum and maximum spark cut, activated by the spark cut sensor.
So, that spark will never return below 0,03ms and will always vom back after 1.0s. So you can still run the car if the gear sensor is broken or disconnected.
3.And the spark cut option to use this table for spark return if mV value is inside the #gear window.
So the only things that have to be changed on the existing code is:
1. Small mV-window table for each gear where the gear is fully engaged.
#0 = 0,54-0,58mV
#1 = 0,88-0,93 mV
.
.
2. A "failsafe" field for minimum and maximum spark cut, activated by the spark cut sensor.
So, that spark will never return below 0,03ms and will always vom back after 1.0s. So you can still run the car if the gear sensor is broken or disconnected.
3.And the spark cut option to use this table for spark return if mV value is inside the #gear window.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Is there any hope, that this feature will be avaialable in the near future.
A lot of race guys i know changed from MS to other devices, as here is not enough support for circle track maniacs. And since i have some MS2s and MS3s in my cars, i don't want to be one of them.
A lot of race guys i know changed from MS to other devices, as here is not enough support for circle track maniacs. And since i have some MS2s and MS3s in my cars, i don't want to be one of them.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Right now they are trying to get 1.5.2 out of beta status and to a release before they can look at adding new features. Once that's across the goal line, we can look at new features. If you'd like to help get 1.5.2 finished, we're giving out 10% off coupons for testing - see this thread.el-hardo wrote:Is there any hope, that this feature will be avaialable in the near future.
A lot of race guys i know changed from MS to other devices, as here is not enough support for circle track maniacs. And since i have some MS2s and MS3s in my cars, i don't want to be one of them.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
i have changed all but one of my customer cars from MS to other systems for this reason.el-hardo wrote:Is there any hope, that this feature will be avaialable in the near future.
A lot of race guys i know changed from MS to other devices, as here is not enough support for circle track maniacs. And since i have some MS2s and MS3s in my cars, i don't want to be one of them.
If you are willing to wait i am sure they will get around to creating the feature, a hold over could also be running a geartronics easy shift system.
If you cant wait you will have to look else were
Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Getting a lot of requests for this one as well.
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2002 Mazda Miata 1.8 6sp - Enhanced MS3 1.4.0, sequential injection, sequential ignition, big turbo, lots of boost
Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Adding my name to the request as well.
Looking to control an Elite Racing IL300 6s Evo2 for clutchless up and down shifting, using a load cell on the shifter and Hall effect rotary sensor on the drum.
Looking to control an Elite Racing IL300 6s Evo2 for clutchless up and down shifting, using a load cell on the shifter and Hall effect rotary sensor on the drum.
Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Thank you
This is very important for me as well.
This is very important for me as well.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
And also this for 1.5.3
Please
Please
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Any news about this?
It is an essential feature for race cars and
I really need it. Better now then tomorrow and waiting every day for an update.
It is an essential feature for race cars and
I really need it. Better now then tomorrow and waiting every day for an update.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
I have a LS and Albins sequential with a Halls gear selector. Would like very much this feature added.
Thought newly requested features were added in a reasonable time frame. This was first mooted 2 years ago.
Thought newly requested features were added in a reasonable time frame. This was first mooted 2 years ago.
Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
My first post was from 2019...
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Some words from our programmers about this?
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
i would be willing to spend money to get this feature moved forward. i currently run a sequential trans with a barrel position sensor. i have an air up shift setup for drag racing.
thank you
thank you
Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
Thank you.
I also would spent some money for this.
I also would spent some money for this.
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Re: [Feature Request]: Sequential Flatshift -CLOSED LOOP
No reaction of our admins?
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