Windows 98se??

jkrueger · Post by **jkrueger** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:24 pm

Will mega log viewer work with windows 98se?? I can't seem to get the installer program to open on my older laptop running 98se.

Thanks,

JC

renns · Post by **renns** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:28 pm

Should be fine. I'm running it on my old win98 laptop. Have you installed JAVA first?

Roger.

jkrueger · Post by **jkrueger** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:31 pm

Do you need java to install the program, I can't even get the installer to open. I don't think I have Java on my laptop, how do I check?

JC

renns · Post by **renns** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:43 pm

It's been a while, but I thought it installed OK, but would come up with an error on launch. Not sure how to check. I followed the link from the MegaLowViewer site to download Java runtime.

Roger.

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 1:45 pm

You will need a JRE installed, 1.41 or greater for VE Analysis to work.

A potential complication with Windows 98 and Window NT 4.0 is that "Windows installer 2.0" is not on it by default. JRE 1.4 and newer requires this. Usually some other application will have already put it on your machine, but possibly not.

I believe it is included with the JRE download if you download the offline installation.

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

If not there, you can get it from Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Once you have a JRE installed, you should be able to run the MLV setup program.

jkrueger · Post by **jkrueger** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 9:07 am

Thanks for the help. Putting Java on the computer fixed the problem.

JC

LigonierA1 · Post by **LigonierA1** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:14 am

Hi Phil,
Adding JRE fixed my issues as well, at least as far as getting the MSL to run on my Win 98 Toughbook. I've got another issue howveer.

WHen I have the tuning screens open next to the viewing graph, the graph will not scroll. The bar at the bottom of my screen moves and I can see the tuning screens being highlighted, but the graph doesn't move until I stop or pause the datalog, then it instantly leaps to that point.

When I go up to the tool bar, click on view, and uncheck "Show Tuning Screens" so that all I'm seeing is the graph, the viewer scrolls just fine.

Any thoughts on that? I loaded it 2x just to be sure, same results both times.

And the software is about a zillion times slower on Win98 than on wifes XP system. I guess this is to be expected to some degree but it seems pretty dramatic. It's so slow that it's a bit tedious to use. Does that sound right?

These are both minor complaints as the software is incredible. I can get done in one afternoon what used to take me weeks upon weeks to do. I thank you and while they don't know it, my family thanks you too. You've freed up alot of time for them;-)

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:47 am

Too be honest, I used to test performance pretty regularly on a P120 win98 laptop with 40 meg ram. But I haven't for some time, probably not since the VE tables have been added.
I'll have to give it a try and see how it is doing.

I can tell you this, those VE tables, especially with the highlighting of cells does add a good deal more over head and worse yet for win98 multi-threading. When the tables are not visible I do not execute any of the code for it, actually if you start it up with them hiddedn I don't even instantiate those Objects.

From past experience I can tell you that Multi-Threaded Java applications get really clobbered by win98 as it is really a single threaded OS under the covers. Running the same hardware with Win NT or XP and I have seen Java Application performance increase 4 fold.

My win 98 test machine has been at my brothers house, but I'll have to give it a try and see what I can do. It is feasible(without much effort) to hold off highlighting of the cells until the graph comes to a stop, that would significantly reduce the overhead on a slower machine.

LigonierA1 · Post by **LigonierA1** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:29 am

Thanks for the feedback Phil.

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 1:23 pm

Thinking about it a bit, I probably shouldn't just assume it is a performance issue. Can you send me your MegaLogViewerLogFile.txt again, and I'll see if there is an error being generated.

What speed processor? How much RAM?

floppy · Post by **floppy** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:23 pm

I have no speed issues using 98se and I tune while trailing live with MT running.

LigonierA1 · Post by **LigonierA1** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:17 pm

Phil
PII, 64meg.

Now then I'm not sure what you're asking for as far as the .txt file goes? Is that the audit file?

LT401Vette · Post by **LT401Vette** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:31 pm

Heck if it is a PII itt should be faster than my old test win98 machine....

There is a file called MegaLogViewerLogFile.txt in the directory the app is installed to (usually c:\Program Files\Megasuirt\MegaLogViewer\

zip that up and send it to me at p_tobin@yahoo.com after trying the part that isn't working right.

there is a good chance an error is occuring, if so it will be logged to that file.

LigonierA1 · Post by **LigonierA1** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 6:20 am

Update: Oddly, things seem to have mysteriously fixed themselves and it's working. It doesn't flow, seems a bit halting, but working never the less. It hangs up about every 5th time I run it and requires ctrl/alt/del to close it out, but I used quite a bit yesterday.

Phil, I'll get you that .txt file. Unfortunately my garage laptop isn't connected to the web and the combo of floppy and disc drives on my two systems makes for a one way valve. I can get info from the web onto this computer that I'm sitting and typing on currently and dump it to the garage computer, but not the other way around.