TunerStudioMS (v0.98) Beta released

[LT401Vette]

I have put out the latest release, 0.98 and this one is called a beta. There have been surprisingly few bugs found in the recent alphas, but I very much want to thank all of you who have been testing and reporting problems.

Please report any problems you have, don't assume it is already known.

The only dialog that is not in here is the MS2 Spare Port dialog, this should be fairly simple and should be coming in a minor release.

Some of the new things in this version (other than fixes):
- MSII Thermistor Calibration
- MSII O2 Sensor Calibration
- Gauges go clockwise and counter-clockwise
- Several new Gauge styles
- a new Dashboard (see below) as an example for some of the new gauge styles. (Thanks Dave for the over all layout)
- Improvements to the AE Wizard



Again please let me know of any unexpected problems while tuning, there are no known issues with tuning any version firmware that you have an ini for.

The next major release should have a few real goodies.

[dave]

edit:
going to the webpage root automatically takes you into logviewer, kinda like this is some sort of dark secret. time to add a front since you have more than one thing going on?

[LT401Vette]

going to the webpage root automatically takes you into logviewer, kinda like this is some sort of dark secret. time to add a front since you have more than one thing going on?

LOL, it sort of has been. In alpha I was trying to keep it low key to throttle the number of testers and first impressions, but now that is sort of the point to beta, it should go broader. So, I will be taking out that redirect . I actually have a new site that looks a little less basic in the works, I just need 36 hour days

[woh]

Phil,
I loaded your version 0.98 and it worked perfectly. Looks Good. Great work.
I tried it out on the bench using MS1/Extra v29y4
My PC is an old HP Kayak XA, 500MHz, 384MB RAM, XP pro SP2

Some comments:
1. I loaded a .msq from MegaTune. Had two warnings. I don't know if I should expect any warnings/errors. The file is attached. It did load my tables and settings correctly.
2. I tried using the Mini-terminal. Could not make it work. The Open Port button was enabled, the Close Port was disabled. Writing some commands "T or S" would not give any returns. Clicking on Open Port gave a message box with this text "Error Opening Port! Error opening port, Unknown Application. Select new settings, try again.
3. The real time display I find difficult to read. Maybe some grouping or smaller numbers might help.

I'm looking forward to trying this.

[LT401Vette]

Thanks woh.

1) msq errors:
Warning: MSQ Units Mismatch for maeRates4! kPa/s found in current configuration, ms found in MSQ, values were not converted to new units.
Warning: MSQ Units Mismatch for taeRates4! Volt/s found in current configuration, ms found in MSQ, values were not converted to new units.

You can ignore these...
These are because i fixed a problem in the ini file for MS1-Extra. The normal MSnS-extra in has units of ms assigned to maeRates4 and taeRates4, so if you saved the msq while using the incorrect ini you will get a warning message because the units in the ini doesn't match the units in the msq. If you save with the fixed ini, the same thing will happen. I guess no one really cared that those units were in correct as Megatune doesn't display them anywhere, but TunerStudio displays them in the Accel wizard, so units of ms look sort of silly.

I really need to get the fixed units into the distributed ini file at least for the new releases.

2) I'll look at that, I haven't used the Min-Term in quite a while. It was more back in the days of little GUI. But I know it comes in handy if you are working on the firmware.

3) That is sort of noisy, but it sure gives you a holistic view , perhaps I could add more of a summary view and make it switchable.

[suberimakuri]

I look forward to trying this later tonight.

I agree about the Realtime View... I see the advantage in having everything there, but it is a bit tricky to pick out the information you need.
To be honest the MegaTune Realtime Display is actually pretty good I think.. with the bar graphs its easy to see a lot of information on the screen at once. Then the lights for accell/decell, etc..
I guess with an easily configurable dash, the times when I used to use MT's Realtime Display, I can now just mod the dash to suit...

[Kurt A]

Awesome Phil, Can't wait to try this out tomorrow. (The wife has already gone to bed and probably wouldn't appreciate the open headers).
Kurt

[PlasticPower8500]

Wow, that dash looks great!
I figured I'd introduce myself. I'm from the turbo saturn world (Tristan, who is an admin here helped me out a ton with MS)
TunerStudio is by far the one I use the most, and it's the most stable too.

Also I am a Java student, and I can tell this is one hell of a piece of software!
TunerStudio pretty much sealed the deal for me on buying a small tablet pc and permanently mounting in on my dash to get real-time data as well as to make adjustments to my tune on the fly. Expect pictures of it all installed when the tablet arrives!

Can't wait to try this one out tomorrow!

One thing I did notice though, and I was meaning to mention something about it last time.
For touchscreen reasons, I really like this layout

dash.jpg

But when I close tunerstudio it never remembers where the toolbar should be. Last version it just put it on top, but this time around it completely forgets that I like the toolbar. Minor issue, but figured it's worth mentioning for future releases

[LT401Vette]

I think I have a few things in mind for the real-time display. I sort of took a short cut on that for the short term . Perhaps the summary view would display only the data logged fields, or all the gauges defined in the ini or I could put a list off preferred channels. Or I can create a dashboard that looks similar to MegaTune's for each firmware family and display that. I'll fall back to this if there is no dash defined.

Right now for the next release I am putting in a tuning tab, that displays multiple tables or curves with a separate dash, I sort of see those dashboards filling the role of the real-time display.

PlasticPower, Yeah I am not saving the toolbar position at all now. That is a simple enough one. It should be saving the toolbar on preference though? If it isn't, is it saving you other preferences, size, position...?

I intend to put in some navigation styles that work better with a touch screen and small displays. That is on the list.

[shauer]

Running MS2-extra 2.0.1

A tried using the calibrate thermistor feature this morning and got some very strange results. I'm running a Bosch coolant temp sensor and I entered the same three values I have always used for Megatune (0, 80, and 210 degrees F) and the bias resistor value of 2490 ohms. My coolant temp want to some hugely negative number. I then tried selecting the GM sensor from the common list of sensors and burned that. Now my coolant temp went to something like 500 degrees F.

I ended up going into Megatune and resetting the thermister in there to get the car going.

Sorry I don't have more specifics at this time, If you want screen shots etc I can get them this evening.

[dave]

Guys, about this layout, maybe we can take it to this other thread?
http://www.msextra.com/viewtopic.php?f=122&t=29135

I ask because I feel that maybe this thread should stay more on topic of bugs/issues with this release.. and that other thread is more where the layout came from.

[LT401Vette]

shauer,
If you can, give me the values you used. It looks like you are entering them in F too correct? But not with the GM one I guess?
Were you connecting with a regular cable?

[2screwed]

After I did the update to v0.98 I get a Java virtual machine launcher errormessage when I try to open TS "Invalid or corrupt jarfile TunerStudioMS.jar"

[LT401Vette]

2screwed, It sounds like the download got interrupted. I really need to put in a check to make sure nothing gets replaced until everything is downloaded successfully.

I will do that, but for now, you will probably need to go and download the install and run that, it will upgrade you.
http://www.efianalytics.com/TunerStudio/beta/

[shauer]

Ok, here are some details.

Current coolant temp = 177 deg F

I peform a thermistor cal for the CTS
- Common Sensor Values is left blank
- Bias Resistor Value set to 2490
- Set to deg F
- Values are:
0 15000
85 1900
210 180

I 'Write To Controller' and my coolant temp displays -1458 deg F

I exit TunerStudio and restart, same coolant temp of -1458 deg F

I exit TunerStudio and start MegaTune and is also shows -1458 deg F

I then enter the same exact values in MegaTune and the Coolant Temp returns to 176 deg F

This is the same exact laptop / cable / controller that I have been using for years with TunerStudio and MegaTune. Never had any data problems loading firmware or doing updates in any application.

shauer,
If you can, give me the values you used. It looks like you are entering them in F too correct? But not with the GM one I guess?
Were you connecting with a regular cable?

[LT401Vette]

Thanks.
I'm not questioning if it works in MegaTune, the reason i am asking about your connection type is checking for a possible relationship to the write timings. I might be too aggressive in the writes. Remember with MS the tuning app has to manage all flow control and the calibration. I don't think that is the problem though.
I'll try is out with a couple different laptops tonight, I should be able to find the problem and I'll get a patch release out.

Thanks for all the info, it is much appreciated!

[shauer]

A little more info now that I better understand what you are asking for.

I'm using a PCMCIA Card serial adapter on my IBM ThinkPad T40. It's one of those PC-cards with the two 9 pin serial ports.

My processor score is 35806

Hope this helps

[PlasticPower8500]

Cool cool, I customized the dash to my color scheme, but there is ONE thing that doesn't quite work well.
When in designer mode, if I want to select the output channel for a gauge for some reason that window shows up somewhere off the "border" of the screen, if you know what I mean, and I can never get to it to change what the gauge should display. That used to not be a problem with the last version.

FIY, I have an express serial card that I tried using and it corrupts my tables every time to a point where I have to reload firmware even if using MegaTune. Express = PCMCIA, no?

[LT401Vette]

Hmm, I haven't tried one of those PCMCIA serial adapters. But I'm sure it should work . I have a T41 and a pile of USB adapter cables. I'm betting I can reproduce it. If Megatune is working through it, it has to work.

PlasticPower,
That dialog should open where ever it was when last closed. The position is saved to the user.properties file. Is there any chance you copies the install from another machine with higher resolution? Either that or it just got corrupt. Either way i suppose I should do a check to make sure the position I am opening it in is on the screen

FIY, I have an express serial card that I tried using and it corrupts my tables every time to a point where I have to reload firmware even if using MegaTune. Express = PCMCIA, no?

You mean the AFR & Therm Calibration tables, right? Not Ve or spark tables, right?

[LT401Vette]

PlasticPower,
I fogot to give you an idea of how to fix the outputchannel box....
Try pressing
ALT+SPACE
then press 'm'

You should be able to move it on the screen with the arrow keys then. It is is way off, it will just to the edge with that key combination.

If that doesn't work and you don't mind jumping in the weeds a bit, as a Java programmer I bet you don't ,
Open user.properties in a text editor.
Find:
dashCompProperty_Select\ Output\ Channel_Y
&
dashCompProperty_Select\ Output\ Channel_X

delete those lines, save and close it. then open the app again.
Or you can just delete the whole user.properties file, but you will loose all your settings.